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post #1 of 27
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who uses old Straight skis and tell us why?

 

Hello all i will be first to admit i still downhill ski at home with old Straight Skis.

 

Old Tyrola Megashadow brand over 20 years old.

 

but in great shape.

 

i was at the store in December looking at more new stuff. But just no reason didn't buy

 

i know i can ski way better on new stuff and want to.

 

Just my old skis are in such great shape. i do not want to throw them out

 

Who else here uses old skis and tell us why?

post #2 of 27

Nope, that train left the station a long time ago.

post #3 of 27

Weird, I just rebooted to install some upgrades and seem my post isn't here.  Oh, well, here goes again. 

 

I take my old early '80s Kästle SGs out for some high speed shenanigans when I can get to a bigger hill.  Nothing works as well for me at speed in all conditions.

post #4 of 27

Buy new skis you will be happier. No need to throw out the old ones, they make great wall decor, I have 20+ straight skis that I have been meaning to do something with, but I don't toss them out.  One of the better pair now hang in my home office wall and I did not drill through them so no harm done.

post #5 of 27

I retired my last pair of truly straight skis (along with some early shaped sticks) after last season,  Why try to juggle a map in the car all the time when the GPS works so much better?  It's still fun to play around with antiquated technology and might reinforce useful skills.  But, today's gear is infinitely better than that from the mid nineties and older.

post #6 of 27

I only ski for a couple of hours on old straight stuff towards the end of the season.  Friends and I show up with gear and clothing from the late 80s or early 90s for a retro day.

 

It's work trying to use those planks compared to my modern gear.

 

Kastle National Team Skis and an orange Lange

 

Dennis

post #7 of 27

I've been known to get out on skis from the 70', 80's and 90's now and again wink.gif

 

It's not a question of why, more like why not. New is just different not better. It's great fun enjoying the stuff I grew up on especially since snow conditions are WAY better now (even this year!). biggrin.gif

 

Are you familiar with our Retro Memories thread?

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/69076/more-retro-memories

post #8 of 27

I'm taking my K2 710's out to Winter Park Monday. I use them about 1/3 of the time. I have other old sticks I use occasionally. I'm also taking my Head Mojos to use part of the day.

post #9 of 27
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I'm taking my K2 710's out to Winter Park Monday. I use them about 1/3 of the time. I have other old sticks I use occasionally. I'm also taking my Head Mojos to use part of the day.



I will be at Winter Park on Monday...lets meet for a run 

post #10 of 27

I take my old rides out maybe twice a year, just because I feel like it.  For everyday skis, they are the modern flavors.

post #11 of 27

I have no nostalgia for the old skis.  I started skiing in the early 70's and have upgraded my skis every 3 seasons and boots about every 5. I don't keep my old skis or boots. I have passed them on at ski swaps.  I believe that skis and boots are consumables.  Use them up and disgard.  About the only older ski I wished I still had is the Saloman 9000 Equipe 2S in a power 8 from the mid early 90's.  I felt I could conquer the world on that ski.

 

Rick G

post #12 of 27

Not a drop, not even half a drop. I don't know where my old 196 Head's are, but my most vivid memory of them is with the old safety (hah!) strap bindings, wiping out hard on an icy steep grade, and one of those big heavy slab edges coming up and whacking me on the side of my head nice and hard. I was looking to my right, saw it swinging up and turned my head at the last moment thinking "uh oh". I was wearing a pretty thick knit hat which cushioned the blow, but still ended up with a nasty bump on my head some very interesting bruises on my ear.

 

I do miss the graphics though, nice and simple and classic.

post #13 of 27

I actually have a pair of K2 Merlin V's that are in great condition that I still ski on. I love them. When I orignally got them i only used them for about 2 trips and then I took a bunch of years off from skiing only to start up again about 3 years ago. I would like to purchase a  newer pair of skis but i just don't see the what for. Another thing I wonder about is weather if I do purchase new skis if I should also get new bindings and boots are not. 

post #14 of 27
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I will be at Winter Park on Monday...lets meet for a run 



Sorry I turned the computer off and went to bed after posting. Sorry I missed you. Would have been nice to meet up.

post #15 of 27
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Not a drop, not even half a drop. I don't know where my old 196 Head's are, but my most vivid memory of them is with the old safety (hah!) strap bindings, wiping out hard on an icy steep grade, and one of those big heavy slab edges coming up and whacking me on the side of my head nice and hard. I was looking to my right, saw it swinging up and turned my head at the last moment thinking "uh oh". I was wearing a pretty thick knit hat which cushioned the blow, but still ended up with a nasty bump on my head some very interesting bruises on my ear.

 

I do miss the graphics though, nice and simple and classic.


Shoulda been wearing a helmet. devil.gifBeating_A_Dead_Horse_by_livius.gifduck.gif

 

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Shoulda been wearing a helmet. devil.gifBeating_A_Dead_Horse_by_livius.gifduck.gif

 

 

Ha ha! Well, for the record, this was long ago enough that if you asked for a "helmet" at the ski shop, they would have sent you down the street to the motorcycle shop.biggrin.gif

post #17 of 27

Looks like the national team will all be wearing straight skis this year...  FIS has changed the rules regarding length and sidecut allowed for racers.. (it's actually a few months old but fits in this thread). 

http://www.skinet.com/ski/article/us-ski-team-responds-fis-changes

post #18 of 27

After skiing straight skis for over 20 years, I finally upgraded to a shorter all-mountain twin-tip only 3 years ago. Now after demoing my brother's S7s last winter, I can't wait to pick up a rockered ski.

 

I can ski just about anything on my old straight skis, but the new skis are so much more fun, why would I (or anyone) want to?

post #19 of 27
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Originally Posted by world-traveller123 View Post

who uses old Straight skis and tell us why?

 

Hello all i will be first to admit i still downhill ski at home with old Straight Skis.

 

Old Tyrola Megashadow brand over 20 years old.

 

but in great shape.

 

i was at the store in December looking at more new stuff. But just no reason didn't buy

 

i know i can ski way better on new stuff and want to.

 

Just my old skis are in such great shape. i do not want to throw them out

 

Who else here uses old skis and tell us why?



If you've been using these skis regularly for the last 20 years, they aren't in great shape. They may look nice, but their useful life has long since passed. The core material in the ski has broken down over the years from both use and age. The ski no longer has the spring in it to hold any type of good edge. Also, I'm assuming the skis have the same bindings on them that you had mounted 20 years ago. That's just a straight up safety hazard. Ski bindings can't be certified as safe after a certain number of years, due to plastic and metal fatigue. Just like the ski has lost its spring, so have the springs inside the binding. The binding is likely to either explode on you one day mid turn, will prerelease constantly, or worst case scenario, will fail to release when needed.

 

You most likely don't realize how crappy those skis are. You've been skiing them so long, and their usefulness has declined so slowly, you don't know the difference anymore. If you go out and demo some new skis, you'll be blown away, and you'll never know how you skied on those old sticks before.

 

post #20 of 27

This is a funny thread.

 

Next question: Who here stills drives an AMC Gremlin?

 

 

post #21 of 27
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

I retired my last pair of truly straight skis (along with some early shaped sticks) after last season,  Why try to juggle a map in the car all the time when the GPS works so much better?  It's still fun to play around with antiquated technology and might reinforce useful skills.  But, today's gear is infinitely better than that from the mid nineties and older.



No retro night ski this year? :(

post #22 of 27

I skied my old straights a lot when I wanted to get my legs back - 3 seasons ago. I did quite a few days in the local SoCal Hills, which although not real challenging, were great to work on technique basics and drills. The old 205s let you know when you''re not doing things well. Being off skis entirely from end season '98 until start of '09 means I had a lot of stuff to work on.

Later that season I added some older 'shapers', in 190, from the late 90's early 00's to start getting the 'feel' of more sidecut and shorter. Finally bought some really newer designs later, and then went crazy and bought out the store during the off-season deals!

Straights are easily skiable in most hard snow conditions - they still excel on the hard stuff. But the new stuff is very, very close in the hard snow we see out here.

Skiing long straights (205+) in any snow of depth is more work than necessary - shorter and wider is clearly a huge advantage in 3D, especially in tight terrain.

I did find my shortness limit and have settled into a nice compromise.

 

I wouldn;t go out and buy old straights, but if you have them, and know how to ski them, there's no reason to not have some fun on them.

 

2.  never much liked Gremlins.... but then who did?  but a Datsun 240z is still a fun spin around the block...

post #23 of 27
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This is a funny thread.

 

Next question: Who here stills drives an AMC Gremlin?

 

 



No Gremlin, but I would sure still drive my Porsche 928 S, if I only had one.drool.gif

post #24 of 27
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No retro night ski this year? :(



I have them almost weekly up here  biggrin.gif

 

post #25 of 27

Each one of us decides how much we want technology to solve our problems and how much we want the satisfaction of solving them with our own ability.

 

The snowmobile didn’t put an end to skiing.

 

The motorcycle didn’t put an end to bicycling.

 

The camera didn’t put an end to drawing and painting.

 

You may think it backward and stupid not to embrace technology that makes everything easier, but some of us like putting our abilities to a tougher test.  One consequence of ski technology making skiing easy in all conditions is that about the only way to demonstrate total mastery is to ski on the edge of killing yourself, as witnessed by outcomes in the last decade or so.

 

It’s interesting how many things go through a “retro” phase, trying to recapture the excitement and purity after years of progressing towards appliance-like ease and simplicity.  Retro-look cars, motorcycles and cameras; videos mimicking scratchy film; digital recordings mimicking scratchy records; etc.  For some of us, retro is more than fashion, it’s a whole set of hard-won skills.  By now, it won’t surprise you to learn I still shoot film with a fully manual camera – no auto-exposure, no auto-focus, no auto-winder, no nothing.

 

Me, I draw the line with step-in bindings.  No cable bindings or long thongs for me, thanks.  I’m too lazy and too chicken.  Guess I’m a sellout to technology…

post #26 of 27
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Each one of us decides how much we want technology to solve our problems and how much we want the satisfaction of solving them with our own ability.

 

The snowmobile didn’t put an end to skiing.

 

The motorcycle didn’t put an end to bicycling.

 

The camera didn’t put an end to drawing and painting.

 

You may think it backward and stupid not to embrace technology that makes everything easier, but some of us like putting our abilities to a tougher test.  One consequence of ski technology making skiing easy in all conditions is that about the only way to demonstrate total mastery is to ski on the edge of killing yourself, as witnessed by outcomes in the last decade or so.

 

It’s interesting how many things go through a “retro” phase, trying to recapture the excitement and purity after years of progressing towards appliance-like ease and simplicity.  Retro-look cars, motorcycles and cameras; videos mimicking scratchy film; digital recordings mimicking scratchy records; etc.  For some of us, retro is more than fashion, it’s a whole set of hard-won skills.  By now, it won’t surprise you to learn I still shoot film with a fully manual camera – no auto-exposure, no auto-focus, no auto-winder, no nothing.

 

Me, I draw the line with step-in bindings.  No cable bindings or long thongs for me, thanks.  I’m too lazy and too chicken.  Guess I’m a sellout to technology…


The DVR put an end to the VCR

The iPod put an end to the walkman

The CD put an end to the album

 

I still take out my share of retro skis..and boots. but I will stay in this century for my everyday skis. 

 

post #27 of 27
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some of us like putting our abilities to a tougher test.


I think it all depends on what you require to satisfy your endorphin fix.  Four hours on moderately steep natural terrain with modern technology does me just fine. Others may find that unsatisfying and need to retro it up, take it to you-fall-you-die terrain, ski from bell to bell, etc.

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