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The poor mans Kastle MX 78

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

I really want a pair of M78's unfortunetly I can not justify paying the money for them. What is the poor mans option. I have heard the blizzard magnum 8.1, are there an other suggestions?

 

Thanks all

post #2 of 14

Head Peak 78!  Very high end performance.  I like the 8.1 as well, but it doesn't feel that much like the 78.  More edgy, a bit different flex pattern.  The Peak 78 has stunning performance for the price, and a very Kastle-like feel.  Impossible to go wrong with that ski.

post #3 of 14
+1

Plus, with a flat top so I can put a vinyl top sheet cover on it. There are almost no aesthetically pleasing skis on the market right now. At least if I can cover the crap with vinyl I don't have to ski something that looks like I puked a bag of skittles on it.
post #4 of 14

I went with a lightly used MX78. Keep an eye on the gear swap forum and Ebay. They do come up.

post #5 of 14

Dawgcatching, how does the Fischer P900 compare? 

post #6 of 14

Dawgcatching, how does the Fischer P900 compare? 

post #7 of 14

FWIW, the MX78's retail for $200 more than the P900. That's roughly 12 lunches at an overpriced slopeside cafeteria. Just sayin'...

post #8 of 14

^ But that's without bindings on the MX78, I think. 

post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by skinnydog View Post

Dawgcatching, how does the Fischer P900 compare? 



The MX78 is a better ski, no question.  The 175cm P900 felt quicker, more like a GS/SL hybrid carver, while the MX78 was a bit more long turn oriented, much more stable, better edge grip, faster base. Not quite as much energy, but more versatile in varying snow conditions.  I would say the MX78 has more groomer/hard snow performance and power, and is better off piste.  I do like the 900, though.  It just doesn't have the range of the 78.  I have skied 6-8" of crud and new snow as aggressively on that 78 as I have any ski I have owned. The 900 gets hung up in the same snow.  

 

Retail on the 78 w/binding is around $1400, and street price on the 900 is around $1000, so the difference isn't huge.  As I stated earlier, the Peak 78 is more of a comparable ski to the MX78: more all mountain narrow ski than pure carver. The P900, while not a pure carver, is pretty close to one. 

post #10 of 14

Nordica FireArrow Pro 80, try it.

post #11 of 14

I agree, the Peak78 is very well the closest. The FireArrow 80 is still a 1200 ski/binding combo, The Kastle has a much different feel than the Nordie too. Hardly "poor mans" territory when we are comparing new to new and not clearance. 

post #12 of 14

If the peak78 is similar them itsolder brother the monster im77 should be even cheaper. I have read that the 77 is/ was better yhan the peak version but can't back thst up with experience. However, my im77's have been fantastic.Before taking up residence in my cupboard when the Mantras came along, my monsters served me well. Even here in Oz I could expect to pick up a slightly used pair for under $200.

post #13 of 14

There's a few years of the Monster iM78 between the Peak series and the Monster 77.  Great ski.

post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by sinbad7 View Post

There's a few years of the Monster iM78 between the Peak series and the Monster 77.  Great ski.



I concur - great ski. Built like a wider GS and full of damp Headness (or Head dampness). Still my go-to ski on in-between (non-racing, non-deep/fresh) days.

When Kästle launched the MX78 it sounded like an expensive replacement for my iM78s, but that won't happen as long as there's life in the Heads.

 

Quite short turning though - something like 15.6m@177cm. Think that's a bit shorter than the equivalent MX78.

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