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Hey guys,
 
I'm a new member here, after about a decade of being off the slopes I'm back on them. Age uh, forty-cough, 5' 7", 170lbs, soccer legs and moderately athletic build; I wear size small upper body, medium lower body. According to the charts, I'm around level 7-8 and with some lessons in mogul bashing, I think I can get to 9 this year or the next.
 
I've been skiing a pair of Salomon Crossmax 10 pilots  @ 170 (107-69-102 according to the text on the tail) I inherited from my dad (still skiing 20+ days a year at >70). I like them in most of the frontside conditions I ski in, but they're also what I'm used to. They skid something awful in icy conditions (although I think they could do with a good sharpening). They also seem pretty heavy and hard to control in the moguls, although my technique needs a lot of work.
 
On my last trip to Heavenly (last weekend, but not enough for true powder, I would call it groomed with some frosting), I demoed a pair of widish/super stiff and rocketed(?) Vokl RTM's @ 166. They were very fast turning (almost too fast), but seemed super harsh and unforgiving. The next day I tried a pair of Vokl Kendos @166 and they were a blast, felt better than either the Crossmax's and the RTM's and I could really go rail to rail on the turns. Much more managable through the chop and way more fun and progressive in the turns.
 
I'm not looking to get a one-size fits all ski. I'm looking for the "front-side" ski since I'm usually on groomed snow with a good fraction of moguls and icy conditions mixed in. If I were to be doing any powder I'd probably rent a pair of backside skis.
 
I plan on investing some slope time this year trying out different ski lengths and types in the general direction I indicated. So any models I should try out? My budget isn't unlimited, but I could stretch to invest up to a grand or so if I save up. Should I go longer/shorter?
 
I've already learned a ton just reading through some of the posts (when I started I didn't really have any idea what all this frontside/backside/piste stuff meant.) Thanks!
 
post #2 of 6

Are you keeping the Kendo on your shortlist?  I demo'ed it last year and liked it a lot (it came in second for me).*  

 

FWIW**, some other skis you might want to try are: Dynastar Legend 85 (which came in first -- although I think it's more East than West), Atomic Crimson, Line Prophet 90, Volkl Bridge, Blizzard Bushwacker or Bonafide (depending on your width preferences).

 

       *   If the Kendo had early rise like the Mantra, it might be the perfect ski for a 1-ski quiver for the under-160 lb skier (of which you would be an honorary member). 

 

      **  Take my suggestions with a grain of salt -- others on this forum have far more ski knowledge than I.

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Originally Posted by Jimski View Post

Are you keeping the Kendo on your shortlist?  I demo'ed it last year and liked it a lot (it came in second for me).*  

 

FWIW**, some other skis you might want to try are: Dynastar Legend 85 (which came in first -- although I think it's more East than West), Atomic Crimson, Line Prophet 90, Volkl Bridge, Blizzard Bushwacker or Bonafide (depending on your width preferences).

 

       *   If the Kendo had early rise like the Mantra, it might be the perfect ski for a 1-ski quiver for the under-160 lb skier (of which you would be an honorary member). 

 

      **  Take my suggestions with a grain of salt -- others on this forum have far more ski knowledge than I.

"ice coast", 140lb's here, can i ask why you preferred the Legend 85 to the Kendo?

 

Also the 2012/'13 Kendo is reported to have early rise rocker, and new dragon graphic top sheet (scroll past 3/4 down) - http://www.freeride.se/content/6233/
 

 

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Originally Posted by Jimski View Post

Are you keeping the Kendo on your shortlist?  I demo'ed it last year and liked it a lot (it came in second for me).*  

 

FWIW**, some other skis you might want to try are: Dynastar Legend 85 (which came in first -- although I think it's more East than West), Atomic Crimson, Line Prophet 90, Volkl Bridge, Blizzard Bushwacker or Bonafide (depending on your width preferences).

 

       *   If the Kendo had early rise like the Mantra, it might be the perfect ski for a 1-ski quiver for the under-160 lb skier (of which you would be an honorary member). 

 

      **  Take my suggestions with a grain of salt -- others on this forum have far more ski knowledge than I.

Thanks Jimski. Yes, I'm keeping the Kendo on my short list. They were responsive and stable and fun. Comparatively the RTM's were pretty miserable. I might try a slightly longer length to see how much it changes the ride for me. The Kendos I rode were cambered with a slight early rise, I think, but I could be wrong. Heck until last week I didn't know a camber from a rocker. Thanks for the suggestions! I've added them to the research list. Man, this is even more complicated than buying a freaking car!

 

Heh heh, I could and should drop to 155 or so and then be at a better weight range.

 

Oh yeah, one more thing. When I was carving on the Kendos I could really get a deep flex on my boots, I don't think I've ever been that deep on them.


Edited by enkidu - 1/26/12 at 10:36pm
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Originally Posted by neonorchid View Post

"ice coast", 140lb's here, can i ask why you preferred the Legend 85 to the Kendo?

 

 



neon -- Although I felt the Kendo's were a bit more responsive, I thought the Legend 85's were a tad more stable going through mixed, chunky snow.  But was a subtle, subjective difference, and it could very well have been simply that I had slept better the night before I demo'ed the Legend.  Also, the Atomic skied very nicely, and would be worth demo-ing.  The Bridge was the best of the lot in mixed snow.  They all have their trade-offs. 

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The Legend 85's look interesting but I think are too wide to fit in my sweet spot. I'm going to try and demo the Head Peak 78's and talk to some shop guys in the Truckee/North Tahoe area. Reading dawgcatching's posts and reviews have been super helpful. I'll keep this thread posted with my thoughts and reviews.

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