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2012 Seth Morrison Full Tilt

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Title: 2012 Seth Morrison Full Tilt

 

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Product:

Shell Size Tested: Mondo 25 /293mm

Width: 99 mm

Flex rating: 8

Ski tested with: Bro Model 188, Blossom Off Shore 185, Blossom SL / FIS, Black Diamond MegaWatt

Footbed: NONE

Modifications done to boot: Only a Boosterstrap

 

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Environment of Conditions:

*Location of review: Vermont

*Runs Taken: 30+

*Snow Conditions: Groomed to granular to 4" powder

*Demo or Own: Own

 

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Summary (inc. Strengths & Weaknesses):

 

 I have been struggling w/ boots for years.  Every boot I own prior, I've spent hours upon hours working on & fitting.  My gripe w/ just about every boot has been my wide feet & slush pouring into the overlap.  Often, the overlap fails to close.  To be fair, I tend to be in plugs. 

 This boots has a lot going for it.  My favorite characteristic is that the cabrio tongue means that there is zero slush into the shell.  The intuition liners are a nice upgrade from the Raichles of old.  Where I recall a pinch in the Raichles circa 1988, there are no such complaints now.  I was fearfull that this boot would be too soft, yet the 8 tongue is plenty responsive for all mtn skiing & high speed cruising.  I was rather suprise that the boot is rather responsive & is not anywhere near as springy as the older versions.

 

Strengths:  First the liner requires no work to be comfortable.  I simply inserted my foot & I was perfect.  It feels like a super slipper.  Really, I cancelled my fitting appt & have done zero work to them.  Next is the flex, I've heard that these are worthless on piste.  Could not be farther from true.  Even w/ a large stick...100-120 & even 125 mm skis, no issues w/ getting enough power.  I was going to swap for a #10 tongue, yet there was just no need.  The cables & the covers snug the boot rather well.  I'm convicned this is why the newer versions work so well : the newer plastic is more responsive & the liner perfectly forms to the body.  This allows for a perfect flex in a natural progression w/o the bottom out of a typical overlap.  As skiing being more "centered" this is really key.  The lighter weight & the lower stack height also allow the skis to be pivoted w/ the greatest of ease.  Again, a plus for a fatter ski.  When I needed to lay over & carve, the boot was plenty powerful. Yet the comfort is the most amazing part of this review.  I've skied in coaches boots, tele gear & just about every boot out there.......these win hands down.  Not only is the boot comfrtable to be in, it is comfortable to ski in.  All those shots to the front of the shins in a day skiing in an overlap are really noted once you ski in this boot.  The flex tongue & the lower stack height of the "retro" design allow the skier to 'feel' being a part of the ski & flex w/ the turn.  What I really noticed is that many of my other boots are lifted more ( & then I've added lifters 5-8mm) & this on a modern fat ski feels twitchy & disconnected.  Again, these are perfect right out of the box.   See the photos to view how low to the ski these are.

 

Weaknesses: This is not a race boot.  If you plan on spending your time in spandex- look elsewhere!   There are better boots for that purpose.   The other point about the FT is that if your don't fit, it will never work.  Many folks report that they simply don't have the foot for this boot.  My only real complaint was that I could not get a shorter lower cable.  That said, they are plenty snug......I just have racer tendancies.

 

Bottom line: If you ski & ski hard everywhere except on FIS injected surfaces, this is a hard boot to ignore.   As a hard core skier, I love this boot & because FT offers every part & liners, this boot will be serviceable for many seasons.  The new liners & plastics make this a true all round ripper.   I never thought a boot could be this good over just about the entire mtn.  I am also convinced that the low stack height & progressive flex have opened up the world of fat skis to this hold out.

 

Other boots in class:

 

 

Tester Info:

Age: 35

Height/Weight: 5'9" /145

Average days on snow:,30+

Years Skiing:] 30+ (pick one)

Skis in your Quiver: Bros, Blossom SL/GS, Off Shore, Hook.... Nordica GSR/SLR

Foot issues (Pronation ect): Ugly w/ multiple spurs, bunions

Aggressiveness:  Competitor

Preferred Terrain All!

 

 

 

post #2 of 12
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Full Disclosure:  I won this in the Show Us Your Boots Contest:

http://www.tetongravity.com/community/sweepstakes/fulltilt/winners.aspx

August!

 

 

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Update: I absolutely love these, the flex is so different from an overlap & unrestricted.  On concern I have is that for 2013, FT is adding replaceable soles.  While this may be nice, it will raise the boot off the ski.  I am convinced that along w the flex, these work wonders on the fatter skis because of low stack height.  This allows for intimate ski feel & easy pivoting.  Even on my 120mm skis, pivots are easy & surfy!

 

My advise, get a 12 version while you can & buy some cat tracks!!!!! There is a reason folks hold onto 20 year old flexions & update parts instead of buying new overlaps.

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Originally Posted by iriponsnow View Post

Update: I absolutely love these, the flex is so different from an overlap & unrestricted.  On concern I have is that for 2013, FT is adding replaceable soles.  While this may be nice, it will raise the boot off the ski.  I am convinced that along w the flex, these work wonders on the fatter skis because of low stack height.  This allows for intimate ski feel & easy pivoting.  Even on my 120mm skis, pivots are easy & surfy!

 

My advise, get a 12 version while you can & buy some cat tracks!!!!! There is a reason folks hold onto 20 year old flexions & update parts instead of buying new overlaps.


Not every model is getting the replaceable sole.

 

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The Seths & the First Chair, the 2 upper end boots, are! frown.gif

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What is your foot modno? I want to buy FT first chair, but I can´t decide wich size sould buy. Can you advise me?

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Full Tilts really are something special.  I have the Konflicts from about 2 years ago and would never dream of going back to to a 2 piece boot.  I see all the discussion of the Fischer Vaccum boot and feel so lucky to have a pair of FT's that I paid only $250 for!  For the first time in years, my feet are warm when I ski...the Intuitions are incredible.  The flex is exactly what I'm looking for free-ride all mtn skiing..so buttery and progressive.  I expected to notice a difference in lateral weight transfer on piste, but I can't tell any.  Its possible others might be able to...but the boots are super responsive and really allow me to drive my skis in a very aggressive manner.  Of course, this boot is not for everyone b/c it might not fit your foot..but if it does...you are lucky.  I also can't believe how light the boots are...its a nice bonus to be pushing around less weight.  I can't vouch for the difference between the Dalbello's and the Full Tilt's, but that would be the only other boot that I would even consider. 

post #8 of 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by supermario View Post

What is your foot modno? I want to buy FT first chair, but I can´t decide wich size sould buy. Can you advise me?

I'm a mondo 25 & street shoe of ~8. However, I went to a FT dealer to be sized. I would suggest the same.
post #9 of 12
How are those boot for hiking? I'm curious because this is not an AT boot or have walk/hike mode but still it's used by a freerider that does a lot of backcountry stuff...
post #10 of 12
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The new '13 version will come w a Vibram sole, yet these are more than acceptable! Loosen the cables & go! I did a fair amount of boot packing & felt that w the liners & flex tongue, they were better than the average boot!
post #11 of 12

Go0d review and follow up. My garage sale Full Tilts without foot-beds are overall  my most comfortable boot but not my warmest. My four buckles have been pushed out, canted aligned and custom footbeded but I think I ski better with the FTs.

They actually are not more comfortable on the snow but from morning until night from boot-on 'till boot -off they are the winner.

Personally, I'm looking forward to the 2013s with a little more toe room.

post #12 of 12

I spent a couple seasons in some morrisons, and really loved the boot.  My biggest gripe with them is the huge amount of forward lean ALL the time.  Otherwise they were peachy.

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