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post #1 of 11
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Hello,

 

I'm new to the forum, but not the sport. I've been boarding for 15 years and skied for 8. I'm looking to purchase my dad a new set of skis this year. He has taken me to ski resorts throughout the world since I was three years old, and I figured getting him a nice new set of skis is the least that I can do. I'm not too familiar with the new ski technology, but I know almost everything about boards and I would think that the two would be similar. 

 

Here's a little bit about him:

-Advanced skier, he's been on the slopes for 50 years.

-Bombs down every run, he literally makes everyone on the mountain look inexperienced. 

-Skis aggressively down every slope.

-Loves to carve and tuck/ride flat. His current skis (Old Rossi's from the 90's) hold a nice edge, but chatter whenever he isn't on edge.

-His form is always perfect. It's almost as if he is never off his game...

-6' tall. 200 lbs.

 

I know technologies have changed so much over the years. I would assume that a set of skis that are stiff, relatively wide, and have a large sidecut would match what he needs. He never really found anything at demos that exceeded his expectations.

 

A few skis that a local shop recommended were K2 AMP Shockwaves and K2 amp Chargers. They seemed a bit biased towards K2, so I'm sure that they must be getting a deal on them. Are these quality skis that will fit his style of skiing? Are there any other models I should be looking at for him?

 

 

 

 

Also, what do you guys suggest in regards to bindings? I was told that Knee made some of the safest, highest quality bindings out there, but I haven't really looked into them yet.

 

 

Any help would be appreciated. 

post #2 of 11
Dynastar contact 4x4 are my favorite frontside skis. Absolutely bomber.
post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the response. Unfortunately, it looks like those aren't in production anymore.

 

 

Here's a little bit more info...

 

 

He always uses racing skis. He tends to complain that all mountain skis are too soft and he dislikes the chatter. 

 

I know this may be near impossible to find, but I'm looking to get him a set of skis that will do it all for him. Steep slopes, high speed, tight carves, and they need to be able to handle all sorts of conditions. Here on the ice coast we consistently have icy groomers, ice, crappy/choppy snow, "mashed potatoes", and minimal powder (key word- MINIMAL, this is the ice coast.)

 

 

post #4 of 11
Blizzard Mag 8.7.

But it sounds like your dad is experienced enough to find something that he likes.
post #5 of 11
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Thanks for the response. Unfortunately, it looks like those aren't in production anymore.

 

 

Here's a little bit more info...

 

 

He always uses racing skis. He tends to complain that all mountain skis are too soft and he dislikes the chatter. 

 

I know this may be near impossible to find, but I'm looking to get him a set of skis that will do it all for him. Steep slopes, high speed, tight carves, and they need to be able to handle all sorts of conditions. Here on the ice coast we consistently have icy groomers, ice, crappy/choppy snow, "mashed potatoes", and minimal powder (key word- MINIMAL, this is the ice coast.)

 

 



first is minimal powder because you want it to be minimal powder. and ski in maine where the snow often sucks.....

 

with that said. if he is the best skier on the mountain, has perfect form and makes everyone else looks dumb this is the first thing that popped into my head.

 

http://www.levelninesports.com/Head-Supermojo-103-Team-Skis

 

these will handle everything he want, accell at going fast, make everyone else around him look inexperinced.

 

 

post #6 of 11

Since your dad has been skiing on gear from the 90s, he will have to adapt his skiing to the new gear.  He will have to learn how to ski with a wider stance.  That way he could take full advantage of the modern shapes.  He will also have to get off the habit of riding a flat ski.  Modern shapes will wander and chatter.  Modern skis work best when they are ridden on their edges.

 

From what it sounds like, your father could be looking for an all mountain ski with some frontside bias.  At his size and skill set, he will probably be better off with something with metal.  I'm erring towards skis in the mid-80s width.  Have a look at the Blizzard Magnum 8.7, K2 AMP Aftershock, Nordica Hot Rod Jet Fuel, Volkl RTM 84.

 

I am sure that there are other good fits.  Good luck with your search.

 

Dennis

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Blizzard Mag 8.7.
But it sounds like your dad is experienced enough to find something that he likes.


He could indeed find what he likes, but he is the type of person that researches and demos for so long that he never actually purchases. He's been looking and demoing for years, but is really hesitant to drop a good $1000-$1500 on a nice set. When he really likes a pair, he tries to convince himself that he doesn't like something about them in order to prevent himself from spending the money. It may sound strange, but he really just doesn't like to spend money on "goods". He has no issue spending the money on trips though. 

 

He's taken me to almost every resort in the US, Canada, and South America on his dime. Surprising him with a nice set of skis is the least that I can do for him. 

 

 

Back to the original skis that I mentioned. Has anyone every tried the K2 Chargers or the K2 Shockwaves? I would really love to support a local shop and these seem to be the highest end skis that they have. He's friends with a Rossi rep though so I might be able to get a deal through them. The Radical World Cup SL FIS IBOX Slant Nose seemed nice when I tried them, but I hardly consider myself advanced at skiing anymore due to boarding for so many years. 

post #8 of 11
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by alexzn View Post

Blizzard Mag 8.7.
But it sounds like your dad is experienced enough to find something that he likes.


He could indeed find what he likes, but he is the type of person that researches and demos for so long that he never actually purchases. He's been looking and demoing for years, but is really hesitant to drop a good $1000-$1500 on a nice set. When he really likes a pair, he tries to convince himself that he doesn't like something about them in order to prevent himself from spending the money. It may sound strange, but he really just doesn't like to spend money on "goods". He has no issue spending the money on trips though. 

 

He's taken me to almost every resort in the US, Canada, and South America on his dime. Surprising him with a nice set of skis is the least that I can do for him. 

 

 

Back to the original skis that I mentioned. Has anyone every tried the K2 Chargers or the K2 Shockwaves? I would really love to support a local shop and these seem to be the highest end skis that they have. He's friends with a Rossi rep though so I might be able to get a deal through them. The Radical World Cup SL FIS IBOX Slant Nose seemed nice when I tried them, but I hardly consider myself advanced at skiing anymore due to boarding for so many years. 

post #9 of 11

i Posted up a pair of 200 dollar advance freeride skis.

 

 

post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by I need a name View Post

Back to the original skis that I mentioned. Has anyone every tried the K2 Chargers or the K2 Shockwaves? I would really love to support a local shop and these seem to be the highest end skis that they have. He's friends with a Rossi rep though so I might be able to get a deal through them. The Radical World Cup SL FIS IBOX Slant Nose seemed nice when I tried them, but I hardly consider myself advanced at skiing anymore due to boarding for so many years. 



The K2 AMP Charger would be a great fit if he chooses to ski groomers all day.  It is a metal laminate that has that traditional K2 Cadillac feel.

 

The K2 AMP Shockwave is the wrong fit.  It lacks metal.  It may not offer the stability that your dad needs.

 

The Rossignol FIS SL is a great ski for what it is, but it will lack the versatility for all mountain skiing.

 

Dennis

post #11 of 11

Your father knows what he likes - race skis. If you get him freeride, all mountain, etc. etc. you will NOT be giving him something that works as well at what he likes to do as his current skis. There are thousands of posts here that all come to the same conclusion - there is no magic ski that is best for everything. If you want the best ski for icy groomers it will have characteristics that make it bad at other things. The better the ski is at a wide variety of conditions, the more it will have compromised the icy groomer (or powder, or some other performance niche) performance.

 

Personally, I ski race skis 90+% of the time. I have demoed lots of other skis and, like your Dad, I like almost none of them. I don't like the "K2 Cadillac feel" mentioned above. If you want to really shoot the moon, give him custom skis like Wagners (mentioned in another thread) for $2K that he can get built with the characteristics he wants. If that is not realistic (and it would not be for me), I'd go with something like BWPA suggested  - something different that is cheap enough that it won't be a big waste if he does not really like it. If you want to go more mainstream and expensive but not crazy.  Kastle RXs.

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