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HELP buying skis? Rossignol Scratch Twin Tip Skis

post #1 of 11
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Hey guys and gals.

I've been a visitor at this site for a while and have enjoyed reading all the informative info! I've always rented skis, because distance was always a problem transporting skis from place to place.

 

I'm considering buying a 2nd hand pair of Rossignol Scratch skis - the double tipped kind.  I believe they are the 2005 or 2004 version.  The condition is ok, from what I can see.  There is a small chip that has been 'fixed', which I hope (?) won't affect the performance of the skis.  I'm basically going to use them about 2 times a year and will be skiing on artificial or groomed snow (not optimal).  The bindings are solmons and the boots that are included are Lange (CRL-80) and the size of the skis are 167cm - I'm 5'10 so I think these would be optimal?

I've included some links to pics of the skis so maybe someone can give me advice if these would be good for me, and what you'd be willing to pay for the package?

 

 

I plan on having them waxed etc and fitted for my weight after buying them.

 

Photos:

 

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post #2 of 11

I have almost the exact same pair of skis. I wouldn't spend more than $150-200 for the whole package, if that. Mine look a lot worse than that. However, it is a decent ski. Mine lost their pop after 10-15 days, so be aware of that. They seem to be pretty durable(they haven't broken yet), the only problems with mine are some edge dents, topsheet chipping, a cracked sidewall, edge separation at tips and tails, waterlogged cores, and some delamination underfoot. However, I ski on them a ton, mostly in the park, so they get beat on. Good luck, they should be a good ski.

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I have almost the exact same pair of skis. I wouldn't spend more than $150-200 for the whole package, if that. Mine look a lot worse than that. However, it is a decent ski. Mine lost their pop after 10-15 days, so be aware of that. They seem to be pretty durable(they haven't broken yet), the only problems with mine are some edge dents, topsheet chipping, a cracked sidewall, edge separation at tips and tails, waterlogged cores, and some delamination underfoot. However, I ski on them a ton, mostly in the park, so they get beat on. Good luck, they should be a good ski.


That sounds promising! I plan to keep them for a while and will inspect them thoroughly before buying them.  The waterlogged core seems concerning - how would I check for that? Any other things that wouldn't be obvious when looking them over? thanks for the reply!

 

post #4 of 11

The waterlogged core came from the delamination underfoot, as well as the sidewall cracks. You should be able to test for that when you flex the skis by hand. If they are still decently stiff and feel like they still have their pop, they are fine. However, add another base repair to your total, that one doesn't look very good, and could let water in to the core.

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The waterlogged core came from the delamination underfoot, as well as the sidewall cracks. You should be able to test for that when you flex the skis by hand. If they are still decently stiff and feel like they still have their pop, they are fine. However, add another base repair to your total, that one doesn't look very good, and could let water in to the core.



Thanks for the info!  How much would a base repair cost (I assume u mean fixing the crack again, or waxing it?).   Thanks again!

post #6 of 11

they are crappy skis imho except for the park.. way soft.

 

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they are crappy skis imho except for the park.. way soft.

 



Oh, that doesn't sound promising! If I get them for $100 I'll take a flyer. I don't see them 'not working' on the hill. Thanks for your opinion though. 

 

post #8 of 11
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Any last words of wisdom before I buy them? 

 

Thanks again guys.  I'll be sure to post pics... including my awesome new helmet I got...

post #9 of 11

I bought these for $140 new on steep in cheap back in 2005... I mounted them up and then sold just the skis for $70. Hopefully you are paying $100 with bindings. They carve like crap... really. Ski crud like crap, way way too flexy. Good for jumps and pops, thats all i found them good for.

 

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Originally Posted by shoal007 View Post

I bought these for $140 new on steep in cheap back in 2005... I mounted them up and then sold just the skis for $70. Hopefully you are paying $100 with bindings. They carve like crap... really. Ski crud like crap, way way too flexy. Good for jumps and pops, thats all i found them good for.

 



Hey, well, I just got them, and they look really nice.  Few scrapes here and there, and nothing that looks too bad on the bottom.  It was 120 for Lange CRL80 boots, skis+bindings+poles... only use em once a year, so seems like it'll be fine for North America fake snow.

post #11 of 11
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Thanks everyone for all your help / advice.  I ended up going with these, got them waxed and the bottoms look and perform perfectly.  Faster than all my friends when on a horizontal 'run', and very nice carving / easy 360 turns.  I don't know much about skis, but they work just like (actually better) than the ones I've rented in Chamonix / Crested Butte. So for the price, I'd say they are worth it.  Hopefully I'll enjoy them on something other than man made snow, but I don't know if I'd lug them to Europe...easier to rent.  Just a tip for anyone new to this - wipe off your skis!!! I didn't and left them in the car overnight and when I looked at them 2 days later, there was some rust on the sides, which after some scrubbing with a hard dish sponge, was able to remove, but unfortunately led to a nice cut on my thumb - oh well.

 

Thanks again!

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