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I can't jump correctly, my balance in the air is all wrong.

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 

hey all, I am actually not a bad skier, but I have issues with jumping.

 

if its a ledge drop or a very gradual sloped jump I can jump OK

 

but if its something that has a lip or a slope that is greater than the landings slope, I have a terrible time. I dont even try anymore in fact.

 

what happens is I cannot balance myself out.

 

so my skis take off from the jump at whatever angle the lip of the jump is and I come down pretty much like that, out of control and land on my back pretty much, and crash out.

 

 

I understand the concept of "standing" into the jump to actually jump from other sports, but obviously my weight or body position must be horrible wrong, the feeling of having ankles locked into heavy boots giving me a tough time.

 

 

1) should my foot weight be towards my toes or towards my heels right on take off point?

2) should my body weight be directly above my boots? ie not leaving forwards?

3) should I be trying to extend fully on the jump? from a crouch to an almost standing or standing position?

4) in in the air I assume to keep my arms balanced, and probably in front of me, and bring my knees more towards my chest?

 

 

thx for any advice.

 

post #2 of 11

The only way to learn is to hit more jumps.

post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 

or to get instruction from someone who knows what they are doing

 

then hit more jumps

 

 

post #4 of 11

1, neither, somewhere in middle

2. yes neutral

3. movement keeps us balanced. hit the jump like a sack of potatoes and youll probably fly like sack of potatoes. Just alittle pop is enough to help us stay in balance

4. all good things

post #5 of 11

If you leave a jump with perfect balance what you describe will happen. You must start a forward rotation as you leave the jump. One simple way to get started with this is to push both hands forward just before you leave the jump, and keep them forward until you land.

post #6 of 11

Dont panic. 

 

If you feel like you are losing your cool.......

 

DO NOT roll down the windows.

 

Rather - DIVE IN THE POOL

 

"Don't lose your cool - dive in the pool"

 

Weight forward forward forward.

post #7 of 11

One thing you may not have considered is that when you are in the air, gravity is accelerating you straight down.  If you are in the air for any length of time you will build up a fair bit of downward velocity.   When you hit the slope all of your velocity, including that built up vertically down velocity will be almost instantly changed into along-the-slope velocity.  You will feel this as a big push forward on your skis.  if you are ready for it you can hang  on, if not, you will end up on your back (not to be confused with a deliberate back slap).

post #8 of 11

Balance in the air is a tough thing to feel for newbies to the park. First a question and then an answer based on a hypothetical response. Are the jumps your hitting bigger than you comfort zone? Yes? move to the smaller park features. You want to be balance at the approach and take-off with enough speed to reach the landing. Your first maneuvers are going to be straight airs. Don't try to pop for right know. Find the right speed to clear the table. Often I see kids in the back so their balance is already taking them out of control. Then they add in the big jump because they think they need it took make the landing. Try sitting back and jumping straight up when standing on a flat. How successful were you? Try it leaning too far forward too. Watch the best athletes in the world going off the biggest hits in the world and you will see very little pop. They use speed to make the jump and balance at take-off, through the air, and at landing to be successful. If you can't straight air you'll never be able to add any grabs, spins, or flips.

post #9 of 11

You're back seat. 

 

 

post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by jasonjm View Post

 

 

so my skis take off from the jump at whatever angle the lip of the jump is and I come down pretty much like that, out of control and land on my back pretty much, and crash out.

 

 

 



 

two questions:  

-When the above happens, where are you hands and what are they doing? (be honest).

-Are you popping (or jumping lightly) at the lip of the jump, or are you just riding off of it?

 

From what little information we have, it just sounds like you aren't being aggressive enough and are getting tossed into the backseat by the jump.  Make sure there's light pressure on your shins, give yourself a little pop at the lip, and keep your hands in front and kind of reaching towards your toes keeping your eyes on the landing.  And lastly, be active and press your feet down into the landing..i.e. don't be passive and let the landing come up into you (hope that makes sense...hard to describe)

post #11 of 11
Thread Starter 

i think my hands are probably flailing around as i knew im going to crash onto my back

i might be doing the opposite of popping the li[ (dampening) because I expect a crash.

 

doesnt help that I typically get to ski one day per year.

 

 

im off to whistler tomorrow for 4 days this time, going to go for it this time when i ski, maybe ill get some video if i crash all over the place again, ill post it here, my friend has a gopro.

 

I can actually jump decently on a mountain bike, so I understand pushing into the landing, and popping off the lip. I am taking my mountain bike chest armor and the full face helmet and I am wearing them and really gonna try this time. even if I have to crash land 20 times, this time I am going to figure it out.

 

I am going to use very little pop, light pressure on shins, have my hands pointed forward, and be aggressive into the jump as per advice above.

 

 

 

 

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