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25 year old skier dies at Whiteface

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
(according to The State Police):
'The investigation established that Daniel McGovern, 25, from Carle Place, New York, was skiing with relatives on the Excelsior Trail when he lost control, exited the trail and collided with several trees. McGovern was wearing a helmet at the time of the accident. He was located approximately 30 feet from the trail, in a wooded area.'
post #2 of 21

How sad. Our condolences to the family. 

post #3 of 21

Wait. 7 trees! Oh my, even a helmet wouldn't protect you against seven trees. I'm not familiar with that trail or area, but that's the craziest thing I've heard. Unless they are small trees. 

post #4 of 21
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Originally Posted by ReiksInHere View Post

Wait. 7 trees! Oh my, even a helmet wouldn't protect you against seven trees. I'm not familiar with that trail or area, but that's the craziest thing I've heard. Unless they are small trees. 



Very, very sad.  I hate to hear about anyone dying.  Sorry, but a  helmet won't protect you against one large tree, let alone seven.

 

If your headed for the woods and you cannot recover to turn out of it, just fall down.

 

 

 

post #5 of 21

Very sad and very scary. I have "missed" a turn and lost my balance before, causing me to go straight for the trees instead of turning back in towards the trail...like Skipirate says, all you can do is throw yourself to the ground and hope it's less bad than if you had not and went full speed off the trail into the trees. Skiing is dangerous and risky, and I like to live for the thrill of pushing it too, when I feel in control. But we are human and we are not always going to be in control. It's why I have a preference for wide green cruisers - plenty of room for error. My condolences go out to the family.

post #6 of 21

Just wanted to extend my condolences as well if the family's reading here. Like all skiers, I've caught an edge before and have been sent off in an unintended direction. It's scary to think a small mistake can end so badly. 

post #7 of 21

Condolences to Dan's family. The trail is extremely windy, a constant zig zag on an intermediate pitch, so be careful on this one guys.

post #8 of 21

groomers are dangerous.

post #9 of 21
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

groomers are dangerous.



VERY poor taste BW. Sincere condolences to family and friends. Such a tragedy.

post #10 of 21

I doubt BWIPa was trying to be insensitive.  He is right.  My sister-in-law was in an near fatal skiing accident and ended up with 19 broken bones and two weeks on a respirator when she went off a groomer.  (she has completely recovered thankfully)

Flat slopes, esp icy or steep ones, can be very dangerous to skiers who don't fall down when they get out of control and off the trail.

 

 

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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

groomers are dangerous.



VERY poor taste BW. Sincere condolences to family and friends. Such a tragedy.

 

post #11 of 21
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Originally Posted by Skipirate View Post

If your headed for the woods and you cannot recover to turn out of it, just fall down.

 



Literally the first thing I teach in every lesson, and it has saved me before. I hit a tree hard enough to break a ski in Fernie, glad I took the impact with my legs and not my body. My condolences to the family.

post #12 of 21

My condolences to Mr. McGovern's family and friends.

 

Excelsior is a lovely trail and not one that you would think of as particularly dangerous.  It is a good reminder to all of us to heed Skipirates' advice which applies as well to lift towers, cliffs, drop offs, and many other hazards.

post #13 of 21

What a tragedy.... Condolences to the family.

post #14 of 21

Who said anything about 7 trees or groomers?

post #15 of 21

what a sad morning for news like this

post #16 of 21
I consider groomers much more dangerous than a tree run. The trees don't jump out in front of me, like many people on a groomed run.

My condolences though, defiantly not a great way to end it.
post #17 of 21

"Several trees" got changed to "seven trees" in post #3.  I flew off a cattrack once at Montana Snow Bowl in 1963 or 64 and ended up hanging upside down in a tree, still strapped into my 215cm Head Competition Vectors.  My friends thought it was hilarious.  Fortunately I was only a few feet above the powder and was able to get out.

 

Condolences to the family.  

post #18 of 21

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Originally Posted by vsirin View Post

Excelsior is a lovely trail and not one that you would think of as particularly dangerous.  It is a good reminder to all of us to heed Skipirates' advice which applies as well to lift towers, cliffs, drop offs, and many other hazards.


Excelsior is indeed a lovely trail, but in icy conditions it can be a deathtrap. There's occasionally a frozen waterfall occupying the center of the steepest pitch, leaving only 5-8' of skiable terrain on each side.

 

I'm actually surprised this accident hasn't happened before. The trail is narrow in places (by Whiteface's blue standards), and much of the skier's left side drops off steeply down into hardwood glades. If you're cruising along and catch an edge on that side of the trail, you'll easily fly into the trees. Falling to slow yourself down wouldn't even be an option, since you'd be airborne the entire time.

post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by huhh View Post

I consider groomers much more dangerous than a tree run. The trees don't jump out in front of me, like many people on a groomed run. ...that pop out from the trees near the bottom while trying to get back to the lifts
 


fixed ;-)

 

Now back on topic..

 

Catching an edge these days results in a much larger unintended change of direction than it did on straight skis.  That is why I believe this kind of tragedy seems to happen more frequently than it used to. 

post #20 of 21

I am always saddened to tears everytime I hear of a ski area fatality.

 

My heart goes out to this young man's family and friends.

 

Peace,

 

Rick G

post #21 of 21

Danny was my cousin, and I was with him last year when this happened.  He lost it right of the top of Excelsior and went into the trees on the trail over towards Summit Quad.  Was behind him and could not get to him.  You all see he was wearing a helmet but chest trauma killed him.  Thank you for all the good wishes to my family-with all the crap on the Internet that was nice to see.  He was a funny and hinest dude...

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