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does the Krypton Pro boot come with multiple tongues that can be interchanged to adjust the boots flex/stiffness?  I've been skiing the Krypton Cross for the past 4 years and the fit is perfect but they seem like they are a bit soft.  Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the way they ski but when I get into the crud/big terrain I find myself clamping the buckles down all the way and they still seem a bit soft.  I am 5'8" 165-170, aggressive ex-racer.  I want a boot that can hold up but I also like my boot to have good flex.  I just don't want to drop $700 on a new boot and find out that it is too stiff and unresponsive.  I know that these boots can be adjusted in multiple ways...but in all honesty, how soft can these boots actually be after making the proper adjustments?  How stiff?
 
Also, can someone talk to me about the liners that these come with?  I've heard that they use the Intuition liner.  I know these liners can be a pain to wear at first (i.e. stiff/tight) but, once broken in, they are great.  Are there different liner options to choose from (softer vs. stiffer vs. comfortableness)?  Gold vs. Silver liner etc?
 
I wonder if I could modify my Krypton Cross boots with a new stiffer tongue?  any other suggestions for making the Crosses stiffer? 
 
1)  are there interchangeable tongue pieces that adjust the stiffness?  do they come free with the boot?
 
2)  given my height/weight/previous boot (krypton cross)/type of skier that I am, will the Krypton Pro be too stiff?  I need to be over the balls of my feet and I hate the feeling of not being able to flex my boot because I feel like I'm in the back seat/not in control of my skiing.
 
3)  discuss liner options?  
 
4)  could i make modifications to my Krypton Cross boots to make them stiffer?
 
PLEASE HELP!!
 
 
Your krypton Cross have a very soft flexing tongue out of the box. There is a very slight difference in the flex of the lower shells, overall the Tongue, rear plug and liner will affect the overall stiffness much more than the lower shell. Either boot is possible to make it to stiff for anyone to bend, or to make it so soft that 100lb weakling would love it. That kinda of the beauty of the boot the flex is super adjustable using different tongues/plugs and plug position.
 
1. The Pro comes with the 2 stiffest tongue that dalbello makes
 
2. The flex on each of these boot overlaps. The stock spec for what you get with the Krypton pro will take you anywhere from 140 FLex to 100 flex. With even a softer tongue you can get your flex down to 90 with a Pro. With the Cross the flex can be taken all the ways up to 135 and all the ways down to 80 with the right parts.
 
On either you could double up the rear plugs and easily make a 150 plus flex boot, why you would want to? i do not know.
 
3.Intution IMO are the only way to go on these boots
 
4. yes, differecent tongue and the rear plug installed if they are not already.
 
I currently run a Pro with the stiff tonque and the plug in the stiffer postion. with the intutions from Dalbello. I just picked up a pair of Crosses and if they set up with the same tongue and rear plug the forward flex feels basically the same. They are laterally less stiff(lower shell softeness).
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^^^^ All truth. I have a Cross with the stiff Pro tongue (# B) for eastern skiing but the regular Cross footbed. The tongue can be ordered through any shop that carries Dalbello. (But have not found any who stock them.) I like the softer Cross tongue (#C) for western powder or trees. If I used them for racing, would want the stiffer footbed too, but the normal one is fine for what I do with the boots. As BWPA says, quite a difference in feel between tongues, I'd guess the factory claim of 30 point flex change is about correct. I have tried the Pro in the store, same setup as my Cross's, could not feel a flex difference. But have heard from others besides BWPA that the lower shell is a touch stiffer in the Pro, that would be more apparent on slope. 

 

The thing about inserting a rear plug is that it prevents the inner shell from moving all the way back around your ankle as you flex forward. (To see the effect, flex the boot with your hand and watch the wings of the shell move.) So you gain some resistance, and can dial in the flex better, but you actually lose some clasping around the ankle. Which may be relevant if you have narrow ankles. Or not. 

 

Like BPWA, use the Intuition ID wrap around liner. Far superior to the stock Cross liner, and adds about 5 pts stiffness IMO. Also way warmer.

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Not sure why, but my Crosses  came with both tongues. I found the stiller tongue (B) with the rear plug in the lower position felt softer than the soft tongue (C) with the plug in the upper position.  Not sure why, might just be at room temperature.  I haven't taken the time to ski with one of each at the same time.

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Originally Posted by RatherPlayThanWork View Post

Not sure why, but my Crosses  came with both tongues. I found the stiller tongue (B) with the rear plug in the lower position felt softer than the soft tongue (C) with the plug in the upper position.  Not sure why, might just be at room temperature.  I haven't taken the time to ski with one of each at the same time.



the plug in the upper position is the stiffer setting. The plug does more for the intial flex than the tongue does.

 

@beyond the edge grip on the solid footbed is so much better. but man can I feel it when the going gets rough. Can not wait to have soft snow again!

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@beyond the edge grip on the solid footbed is so much better. but man can I feel it when the going gets rough. Can not wait to have soft snow again!


Yeah, several users have told me about the same: significantly better lateral, but significantly more pounding. Tempted but...

 

 

 

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