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Mogul Skis vs Twin Tips in the Bumps

post #1 of 13
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The question is how much easier would it be to ski true Mogul Skis vs a leading brands Twin Tip in the bumps? Last Sunday morning we tested 2 leading Mogul Skis, the Hart F-17 Classic and the K2 244 to find out. Suburban Sport's  www.MogulProShop.com division stocks over 9 different bump skis to let you rip the moguls like a pro.

 

http://suburbanskiandbike.com/store/category/16/234/Mogul-Skis/

 

 

 

 

post #2 of 13

Honestly, He looked better on the twins.

 

 He used a heck of a lot more skid and bang on the harts (hit almost every bump sidewise on those).  Turn up the volume I can't hear a word you guys say in this video.

post #3 of 13

That was interesting, and I think visibility has as much effect on the outcome as the skis.  As a retailer in the east, what portion of your sales falls into this category?  I would expect a fair number of skis would be sold in the front-side carver, mogul and all mountain category.

post #4 of 13

 

You know who will interject critique and condescend for skiing between rather than over the bumps in 3......2.........1..........

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What was the waist on the Rossi twins?  He may have said, but I didn't hear.  Also, the hart F17 Classics are not really a true bump ski in the regard that the F17 WC is.  Other than a skinnier waist the classic skis very much like a narrow twin.

 

How does the new 244 measure up to the Cabrawler?  The brawler has a little turned and rounded tail and will go switch for most needs there.  But the sidecut and turn radius is more of a true modern mogul ski than the F17 Classic is.

 

 

Quote:
Tip/Waist/Tail Widths
92/66/82mm
 
 
 
Tail Profile
Flared
 
Turn Radius
21-29

 

 

I really like mine.  But someday they will need replacing and it is no longer made is it?  I've also heard good things about the Moment Mowgli.


Edited by crgildart - 1/20/12 at 12:35pm
post #5 of 13

I really interest in how we can get some moguls like those at our local hill.  biggrin.gif Those look like a bunch of fun and way better than we get.

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Originally Posted by cstreu1026 View Post

I really interest in how we can get some moguls like those at our local hill.  biggrin.gif Those look like a bunch of fun and way better than we get.



 

You just knock down some little kids and have your buddy behind you spray over themdevil.gif

post #7 of 13

I've never seen a ski area feel the need to plant a sign saying "Moguls" at the top of the run before.

post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 

MogulProShop 252.jpg

Mogul skis are a nice niche category for us just like race skis. Nearby Ski Sundown in New Hartford CT likes to keep things interesting by offering Nastar Racing, Terrain Parks, and seeded Mogul runs. It's all about the fun and making the most out of what you have. In fact tomorrow I'll be helping them host their "Bump or Bust" Mogul Competition on Exhibition. In March we'll be hosting the www.MogulProShop.com Pro/Am Bump Comp with 3K in prize money.

 

Both the Hart F-17 Classic and the F-17 WC are true Mogul skis handmade in Italy's famous Luciano Panatti factory. They build lot's of skis under contract including "Bomber Skis" which we also sell. The F-17 Classic can be skied around the mountain and is a fun hard snow ripper. The F-17 WC is more of a pure zipper line mogul only ski. Back to the K2 244 which is the old K2 Mamba, this ski is very easy to ski and closer in design to the F-17 WC in shape. I've shown our original factory sneak peak from China from last season. K2 is going to run this ski again for next season because it's perfect!!! That will be year three for the 244!!! I found the K2 244 to be Wedelicious!

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post #9 of 13

 

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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

the hart F17 Classics are not really a true bump ski in the regard that the F17 WC is.  Other than a skinnier waist the classic skis very much like a narrow twin.

 

I really like mine.  But someday they will need replacing and it is no longer made is it?  I've also heard good things about the Moment Mowgli.


Finding real mogul skis is tough. I occasionally pull these out for some old school mogul fun.

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I took a couple of runs on a pair of '09 Mowglis last year. They were quite fun. Worth checking out.


Edited by JimiB - 1/21/12 at 6:35pm
post #10 of 13

I have the k2s and they will rock your world.  Here is what I use them for:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTm_HfyuWrE

 

Snowdancer

 


 

post #11 of 13

Damn boys.. chop your polls another few inches.  Your hands are popping high.

You want to float the moguls you need your hands lower and more forward.  shorter polls to keep your weight and reach over the mogul as you slide through....

The skiis....  hmmmm. 

I've been rocking the same sticks for 11 years.  I'm doing research to see whats what in the new world.  I have two pairs of skis in my old but trusty quiver..... the original twin tips by salomon (orange1080's) and the last set of super force 9 mogul ski's put out.  Love the 1080's and ride them most....  Wanting something new and sparkly...  

I'm an old bumper these days. Skied and learned from greats like Chuck Martin and Bjorn Aberg how to ride a line or hop the hill like a rabbit.  so....  Whats the best all mountain that rocks the bumps????? 

post #12 of 13

I bought a pair of K2 244's in 173cm last year and have been skiing moguls with ease that I would have never considered trying on my 165cm SL skis. They TRUELY AWSOME!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Speeder View Post

I bought a pair of K2 244's in 173cm last year and have been skiing moguls with ease that I would have never considered trying on my 165cm SL skis. They TRUELY AWSOME!!!!!

 

So taking slalom skis -- designed for arcing hardpack like nothing else -- into bumps doesn't work as well as taking a mogul ski into bumps?  Would never have guessed that.

 

Taking your mogul ski into a slalom race course probably doesn't work very well either.

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