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post #121 of 177
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post


I just skied the 181cm 8.5 today in moderate chop and powder at Snowbasin and really, really liked the ski. To me personally, it was much more fun than the Bonafide.


Me too, (some days)..........other days notsomuch.

 

SJ

post #122 of 177
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Originally Posted by dawgcatching View Post


Since I didn't try the CA, it would be hard to say. My experience with the CA models in the Nordica line, FWIW (same company, somewhat similar skis), were that they were more suited to bumps and lighter skiers, for sure. But, the new Flipcore 80/85 ti stuff is pretty forgiving (in soft snow at least) so the CA may be more just suited to cruising and lower energy skiing. It will be interesting to try the 8.0 and 8.5 in hard snow vs. the new 68.  I really hope the 80 matches the 68's performance, relatively speaking, in terms of grip and power. 

 


Posted the initial video reviews of the 8.0 and 8.5, if anyone is interested.  

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/110399/video-review-2013-blizzard-magnum-8-5ti-and-magnum-8-0ti

 

post #123 of 177
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post


I just skied the 181cm 8.5 today in moderate chop and powder at Snowbasin and really, really liked the ski. To me personally, it was much more fun than the Bonafide.


Good conditions today for a ski like that!  It was scrubbed down to hardpack fairly quickly.  I found myself working a bit harder toward the end of the day in the chunk on sub 90mm skis, and in big turns at speed. They were awesome in the skied out areas.  OTOH, I found myself working a lot harder on anything 100mm+ in the bumps lower down.  I can make the narrower skis handle the chunk better than I can make the wide skis handle firm bumps.  Just have to ski with a more active release, which is OK by me.  It is more fun that way.  

post #124 of 177

I was going to start a thread on my favorite ski from the on snow yesterday and today.  Instead, I will say it was the 187 Bonafide. 

 

It just fits what I like, and how I ski- new school shape with old school construction. My fellow testers on the Bonafide described it as dead.  That says BINGO! to me- it was super damp, and strong, but still plenty nimble.

 

I use the same run for every ski at Snowbasin- John Paul lift to the edges of the Wildflower Downhill- it gives you both North facing light skied up pow, then South facing (what I call the Hobacks simulator) which provided 3" of fresh over refrozen, then mushy warm snow mid day, then refreeze after about 1:30. Then some groomer carving, to a traverse across to a short, steep, hard scraped off shot, and back to the tents.

post #125 of 177

I am in the market for new ski and mainly midwest hardpack and ice majority of time. There are some good sales on the 2012 Magnum 8.1 or should I wait for the 2013 magnum 8.0 to come out?  Thanks.

 

post #126 of 177
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Originally Posted by bluffhntr View Post

I am in the market for new ski and mainly midwest hardpack and ice majority of time. There are some good sales on the 2012 Magnum 8.1 or should I wait for the 2013 magnum 8.0 to come out?  Thanks.

 



Current Magnum 8/1 is still a great ski. Get them then ski them like you stole 'em. 

post #127 of 177
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Current Magnum 8/1 is still a great ski. Get them then ski them like you stole 'em. 



if they were both available, and the same price, which would you choose and why?

post #128 of 177
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if they were both available, and the same price, which would you choose and why?



Not Phil, but I would probably get the 8.1 if I was leaning toward a hard snow ski. It is a bit more exciting (also a bit more demanding).  8.0 is quicker, slightly easier to ski. 

post #129 of 177
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Not Phil, but I would probably get the 8.1 if I was leaning toward a hard snow ski. It is a bit more exciting (also a bit more demanding).  8.0 is quicker, slightly easier to ski. 



Not Scott but, yeah. 

post #130 of 177
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Not Scott but, yeah. 



Great minds think alike! 

post #131 of 177

Thanks for the info, appreciate it.  Another question, I am an advanced intermediate to advanced skier, mostly ski black diamonds that are steeper hardpack/ice in midwest.  Looking at Volkl RTM 84, RTM80, and this years Blizzard Magnum 8.1.  Which would be the better choice or is it just personal preference?  Thanks.

 

post #132 of 177
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Not Scott but, yeah. 



 



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Originally Posted by dawgcatching View Post



Not Phil, but I would probably get the 8.1 if I was leaning toward a hard snow ski. It is a bit more exciting (also a bit more demanding).  8.0 is quicker, slightly easier to ski. 




Sigh ...... this is what I was afraid of - another case of dumbing-down/moving towards the middle ...... wish I'd banked a back-up pair of the now-extinct 8.7s.

post #133 of 177
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Sigh ...... this is what I was afraid of - another case of dumbing-down/moving towards the middle ...... wish I'd banked a back-up pair of the now-extinct 8.7s.


I shared your worry before skiing them.  Not to worry, the Mag 8.5 Ti is an outstanding ski, and still lays down the law, but just a little more friendly off-piste.  If you don't like the little extra playfulness, get a Kastle MX88, which IMO, is a far superior ski to the 8.7 in every way.
 

 

post #134 of 177
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Originally Posted by coolhand View Post

get a Kastle MX88, which IMO, is a far superior ski to the 8.7 in every way.


I know a guy....

post #135 of 177
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Originally Posted by coolhand View Post


I shared your worry before skiing them.  Not to worry, the Mag 8.5 Ti is an outstanding ski, and still lays down the law, but just a little more friendly off-piste.  If you don't like the little extra playfulness, get a Kastle MX88, which IMO, is a far superior ski to the 8.7 in every way.
 

 


Strong recommendation - thanks!!   Now that I'm limiting myself to one ski purchase per season, the 8.5 Ti is on the short list for next year!  Have to say, though I'm still undecided about Kastle -  the MX 78 hasn't caught fire for me, especially on firmer snow.  I have several options for off-piste/BC, while the 8.7s keep calling me back for resort groomers - are the MX88s as stable and damp as the 8.7s?

 

post #136 of 177

Haven't skied the 8.7s, but the MX88s are a little too damp for my tastes, which is why I'm probably selling them.

post #137 of 177

Do you know how many sheets of metal are in the Kabuki & how does it ski compared to the Bone?

post #138 of 177

There is no metal in the Kabookie (sp?) except maybe a binding retention plate. It is lighter and more nimble than the Bonafide but not as damp or stable. Theoretically, it won't be as grippy but it felt fine in that department to me. Disclaimer; I only skied it once and I didn't find any exceptionally hard snow to try it on.

 

SJ

post #139 of 177

I had the (double) chance to try the Kabookie last saturday at Sutton in more than a foot of fresh snow...biggrin.gif

I already have too much skis but I have place for a 98 mm and I really loved these skis! They were light and fun to ski in the trees and bumps... I'll keep an eye on them for next year...

post #140 of 177

What are the dimensions of the 8.5 & what sizes will it be available in? Is there early rise in the tip & tail like the bushwhacker? Thanks, C.

post #141 of 177
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Originally Posted by aremis68 View Post

What are the dimensions of the 8.5 & what sizes will it be available in? Is there early rise in the tip & tail like the bushwhacker? Thanks, C.



125/85/111  167,174,181 are the lengths. Yes, early rise like the other Flipcore skis. The Magnums with the additional of metal in the construction are more powerful than the Bushwacker. 

post #142 of 177

The Magnums also have a different core than the Freemountain skis.  All the Freemountain skis have a core that consists of bamboo, poplar, and isocore which allows the skis to not be overly heavy and stiff when two sheets of metal are added.  The Magnums have a traditional wood core (I don't know what that wood is) so they will be slightly beefier.  I Magnum 8.0 CA will be a stiffer ski than the Bushwacker.  Both don't have metal but the core is stouter in the 8.0 CA.

post #143 of 177

Skied the 8.0's and was surprised at their stability and how easy they initiated turns. Of course I have four pairs of Blizzards in my garage so i am a little biased.

post #144 of 177

Looking forward to getting on the 8.5 for my western "hard" snow ski for sure. it seems to have just about everything I am looking for in that category. 

post #145 of 177
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Originally Posted by lostintheeast View Post

Skied the 8.0's and was surprised at their stability and how easy they initiated turns. Of course I have four pairs of Blizzards in my garage so i am a little biased.


I've added the 2013 product pages for the 8.0Ti and the 8.0ca.    You should post a review.

http://www.epicski.com/products/2013-blizzard-magnum-8-0-ti

http://www.epicski.com/products/2013-blizzard-magnum-8-0-ca

 

post #146 of 177
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Originally Posted by aremis68 View Post

What are the dimensions of the 8.5 & what sizes will it be available in? Is there early rise in the tip & tail like the bushwhacker? Thanks, C.



It is a much lower rise, a bit early rise in the tip, almost none in the tail. They ski shorter than the 8.7 they replaced.  I would classify them as more of a "narrow all-mountain" ski than a frontside ski, after skiing the 174cm 8.5ti a bunch the past couple of weeks.  Kind of a firm snow off-piste ski, great in bumps and trees, rather than a typical carving oriented and groomer power ski (which describes the old 8.7 to a T). Great ski in bumps, just super fun and a near perfect flex.  My buddy Chris said he saw me make the best turns he had ever seen out of me on that ski.  It is a ski that has definitely grown on me the more I have skied it, and will make a lot of people happy.  

post #147 of 177

^^^^ Now if we could stage an intervention for the art design department at Blizzard. Seriously, the bulls are acceptable, and the carvers are kinda nice, if a bit busy, but it's been a long ugly road for the Magnums. Next season's I'm-an-overmagnified -stickum-collage-silkscreen-done-under-the-influence school is the sort of thing that makes me reappraise demonic clowns and lacerated eyeballs. 

post #148 of 177

I love the Red Bull on the Bonafides!.............. I wasn't sold at first sight, but after skiing the ski.............. the Bull the stares at me and dares me to take it faster! Seems to be calling me a Poser!

post #149 of 177
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Originally Posted by Yo Momma View Post

I love the Red Bull on the Bonafides!.............. I wasn't sold at first sight, but after skiing the ski.............. the Bull the stares at me and dares me to take it faster! Seems to be calling me a Poser!



If the shoe fits.....biggrin.gif

post #150 of 177
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If the shoe fits.....biggrin.gif


Love It! LMAO! :)

 

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