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I'm headed out to Utah with my wife the first week of April.  It will be our first time in Utah skiing.  

 

We're staying for a week, so she is looking for a place that has shops, stores, restaurants, bars, etc.  So we're thinking the two best might be Park City or Solitude.  Park City is fine with me, but it just seems excessively expensive to stay a week and ski.  

 

My #1 priority was to spend at least a day at Snow Basin and ski the downhill and Super G from the 2002 Olympics.  I read a story on this website about a father and son staying at a nice condo about 10 minutes from Snow Basin and Powder Mountain, but it seems like we need a shuttle into Ogden.  My wife is looking more for the whole idea of we can leave our hotel or condo and just walk around the town at night and do whatever in the town.

 

Is it possible to stay at Solitude or Park City and make a trip over to Snow Basin for a day without renting a vehicle?  

 

If it comes down to staying at Solitude or Park City, which of the two has the better skiing?

 

Thanks for any and all advice!

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I'm headed out to Utah with my wife the first week of April.  It will be our first time in Utah skiing.  

 

We're staying for a week, so she is looking for a place that has shops, stores, restaurants, bars, etc.  So we're thinking the two best might be Park City or Solitude.  Park City is fine with me, but it just seems excessively expensive to stay a week and ski.  

 

My #1 priority was to spend at least a day at Snow Basin and ski the downhill and Super G from the 2002 Olympics.  I read a story on this website about a father and son staying at a nice condo about 10 minutes from Snow Basin and Powder Mountain, but it seems like we need a shuttle into Ogden.  My wife is looking more for the whole idea of we can leave our hotel or condo and just walk around the town at night and do whatever in the town.

 

Is it possible to stay at Solitude or Park City and make a trip over to Snow Basin for a day without renting a vehicle?  

 

If it comes down to staying at Solitude or Park City, which of the two has the better skiing?

 

Thanks for any and all advice!



 

You are going to end up in Park City if the above are important.  If you walk more 5 minutes you will have covered the village at Solituderolleyes.gif.  You could spend days exploring Park City.  That being said the skiing is much better at Solitude.....

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You are going to end up in Park City if the above are important.  If you walk more 5 minutes you will have covered the village at Solituderolleyes.gif.  You could spend days exploring Park City.  That being said the skiing is much better at Solitude.....



Thanks for the response.  We plan on skiing during the day, 9 AM until 4 PM for the most part.  We're not going to go out and party all night or anything, but she's just looking for shops and things like that to do at night.  

 

I'm also worried about Park City having good snow the first week of April (the week of Easter).  

 

Is it at all possible to get to Snow Basin or Snowbird from Park City with a bus or another type of transportation?

 

Thanks again.

post #4 of 159
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I've also heard nothing but positive reviews about Alta & Snowbird.  I read online there is a shuttle that we can get on from Park City and head over to Snowbird for a day of skiing.  I can't find the link, but is that reasonable trip to do where we can get a full day of skiing at Snowbird?  

post #5 of 159

Don't know about "shuttles", however having to travel for both work and for snow I would rather have my own transportation.  Google "rental cars in park city", I'm sure there are offices of Hertz, etc.  Both BCC (Solitude) and LCC (Bird and Alta) have bus service via park & ride up the canyon - so you don't need 4wd if it is snowing.  Snowbasin from SLC is doable w/o 4wd in moderate snow - but I think there is a shuttle up from the Sinclair station.    I like my own transportation.  1 day rental for a car might be the same as some bus.

 

Sounds like PC is the choice for you and your wife given the requirements.  Never can tell about the weather though.

post #6 of 159

there is no reason not to get a car (unless possible parking fees in PC are a consideration)

post #7 of 159
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Originally Posted by Hokie07 View Post



Thanks for the response.  We plan on skiing during the day, 9 AM until 4 PM for the most part.  We're not going to go out and party all night or anything, but she's just looking for shops and things like that to do at night.  

 

I'm also worried about Park City having good snow the first week of April (the week of Easter).  

 

Is it at all possible to get to Snow Basin or Snowbird from Park City with a bus or another type of transportation?

 

Thanks again.

 

There was a skier in an afternoon workshop I took at Alta who took a shuttle bus of some sort from Park City.  She had to watch the time to make sure she was ready to leave around 4:30 or so for the ride back.  I assume it's possible to get off at Snowbird.

 

Snowbasin may not be worth a bus ride or drive in April.  Lower elevation and less snow than LCC or BCC.

 

With two people, seems like renting a 2WD car gives you a lot more options.

 

Where else have you skied out west?
 

 

post #8 of 159

No public transportation to Snowbasin. You could take a train from SLC to Ogden, but you'd still need a car to get to Snowbasin. I think some of the hotels in Ogden have their own shuttle to the resort, so if you stayed there for the night, you might be able to work it.

 

You'd be better off just renting a car, though.

 

As for it being worth it, that really depends. April isn't too late to experience great conditions. If your main concern is skiing the Olympics runs, you won't necessarily be looking for epic powder. Just make sure that John Paul and the Tram are open--they typically close them off a week or two prior to the resort closing sometime in April, and the way this year is going, they may never open them.

 

post #9 of 159

PC has everything your wife wants, except it has the worst skiing?

You really need a car to do what you want.  I think you'd be better off staying downtown and driving to the resorts each day based on conditions?

 

 

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As the others have implied it's about the same or less to rent an economy car for the week, than it is to pay for roundtrip shuttle service for two people from airport to any of the UT ski areas.  The car gives you flexibility/mobility.  So I'd recommend renting a car and basing in Park City for nice ski town atmosphere/amenities.  Plenty of great recreational skiing there if you get a little cooperation from Mother Nature.  With the rental car you can make side trips to Snowbasin or Alta/Bird or Sol/Bright as interest or conditions dictate.

This report gives a few details on some of the ski areas you've mentioned:  http://www.dcski.com/articles/view_article.php?article_id=1285&mode=headlines

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I've also heard nothing but positive reviews about Alta & Snowbird.


You should do some more research.  Snowbird is great if you're an expert, and awful if you're not. 

 

As others have said, this late in the season, the snow will be poor at lower elevations (unless you like skiing slush).  Alta, Brighton, Solitude, Snowbird are at the highest elevations, so you'll probably want to go there rather than Park City or Snowbasin.  Unfortunately, no quaint walkable ski town at any of the four, at least of any size.  Solitude's "village" is very small, and the other three resorts don't really have any at all.

 

 

post #12 of 159

Park City definitely sounds like the place for you and your wife. With the number one ski lodging in North America (Deer Valley) and an old mine town feel with unique shops, boutiques and restaurants- the two of you will not find yourselves bored. As far as transportation, Resorts West offers a complimentary shuttle service if you choose to stay at a resort that is farther than walking distance from Main Street.

post #13 of 159

Agree with what seems to be the emerging consensus: stay in Park City

 

Depending on what happens with the weather, you may or may not want to ski at Snowbasin (I love the place but it's got the lowest elevation and hence season) or Park City. 

 

Park City is not bad skiing; it just isn't the organic, ungroomed challenge that Alta and Snowbird are.   Utah-aholics don't like it because of this.   It is very large, very corporate (so, nicely taken care of and groomed) and right next to Deer Valley, which takes all of these attributes to the next level. 

 

Renting a car for a week is often cheaper or equal to riding a shuttle round-trip for two from the airport to Park City.  Then you have the car to use to cruise the various areas and choose your favorite.  If you consider the added convenience, money is really a non-issue.

post #14 of 159

Don't count Snowbasin out!  I was skiing powder there on April 14th last season.

 

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They also have the most sophisticated snowmaking system in the world AFAIK, which has made for some pretty good skiing with a lot of terrain covered during this low snowfall season so far. 

 

I agree that Park City is the place for you to stay from what your described needs are.  The drive from PC to Snowbasin is about an hour on the Interstate for most of the way.  Can't say for sure, but with some research you may be able to find a shuttle.  I have had many clients who make the day trip from PC & are only disappointed if it is a windy, whiteout day.

 

Feel free to PM me when you are in Park City for updated conditions & the status of the Olympic DH runs.

 

JF

 

PS:  It is snowing HARD right now!

post #15 of 159
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Thanks for all the replies.  We've talked with places in Park City, and I think the lodging is just too much to stay in that area.  We may go with Lakeside Properties near Snowbasin and Powder Mountain now.  Obviously they can't tell us how much they expect to be open the first of April.  

 

I doubt we are going to rent a car as my wife doesn't want to ride in the snow even if it's 4WD (don't ask, ha!).  

 

She still has Ogden to hang out and eat at night, and the rental property told us they have a shuttle that will take us and pick us up.

 

We've looked at Solitude as well, but are still having trouble making up our mind.  It sounds like Snowbasin and Powder Mountain are better skiing, but for the first week in April, is that still true?  

 

Thanks again for all your help and advice. 

 

 

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Don't count Snowbasin out!  I was skiing powder there on April 14th last season.

 

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They also have the most sophisticated snowmaking system in the world AFAIK, which has made for some pretty good skiing with a lot of terrain covered during this low snowfall season so far. 

 

I agree that Park City is the place for you to stay from what your described needs are.  The drive from PC to Snowbasin is about an hour on the Interstate for most of the way.  Can't say for sure, but with some research you may be able to find a shuttle.  I have had many clients who make the day trip from PC & are only disappointed if it is a windy, whiteout day.

 

Feel free to PM me when you are in Park City for updated conditions & the status of the Olympic DH runs.

 

JF

 

PS:  It is snowing HARD right now!


+1 I skied powder in Snowbasin for two Aprils in a row now.

 

I can understand the advice, but saying that Snowbasin is a bad bet just because of low elevation isn't necessarily true.

 

Also windy, whiteout days are pretty awesome (so long as you like trees).

 

post #17 of 159
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Originally Posted by Hokie07 View Post

Thanks for all the replies.  We've talked with places in Park City, and I think the lodging is just too much to stay in that area.  We may go with Lakeside Properties near Snowbasin and Powder Mountain now.  Obviously they can't tell us how much they expect to be open the first of April.  

 

I doubt we are going to rent a car as my wife doesn't want to ride in the snow even if it's 4WD (don't ask, ha!).  

 

She still has Ogden to hang out and eat at night, and the rental property told us they have a shuttle that will take us and pick us up.

 

We've looked at Solitude as well, but are still having trouble making up our mind.  It sounds like Snowbasin and Powder Mountain are better skiing, but for the first week in April, is that still true?  

 

Thanks again for all your help and advice. 

 

 

 

You're asking for magic bullets, my friend. Like 4ster and I mentioned, that time frame is not too late to have great powder at Snowbasin. And if there's powder, Snowbasin (pretty objectively--more vertical, more terrain, better lift system, better facilities) and Powder Mountain (in my opinion, others would probably disagree) are much better skiing than Solitude. If it was late April or May, I'd say Cottonwoods, no doubt (you might not even have an option), but early April is up in the air.
 

If your wife is really more interested in town, why not stay in Ogden? Lakeside won't put you slopeside, so you'll have to take a shuttle skiing and to town. If you stay in Ogden, you'll shuttle to the resorts but are able to walk out the door to restaurants and shopping.

 

Overall, sounds like Snowbasin and PM would be a better fit for your trip than Solitude.

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>Lakeside Properties near Snowbasin

You are staying in the BOONIES!!!

I would suggest a hotel in downtown SLC.  Then you have the very scenic Cottownwood resorts to go it(if it's not snowing), Park City, and Snowbasin - all within a 45 minutes drive, mostly by interstate.  You have nightlife, attractions and lots of restaurants in downtown SLC.  You can easily drive to Snowbasin for one or two days.  I would suggest go there your first day, and later in the week.  Even if a storm comes in, it likely won't be that hard to drive to Park City or Snowbasin, except the last 5 miles or so might have some snowcover.  You could drive up to PC and ski Deer Valley, walk around and enjoy the shops and town, and ski the mtn a half/threequarters day and maybe eat after skiing in town.  You can drive up and enjoy the alpine scenery at legendary Alta(lots of blue runs) if it's not snowing and enjoy the scenery that only AltaBird have to offer in Utah.  On your second day take the beautiful drive up to Brighton and ski the groomers. The best part of SLC is you can wake up each day and pick from 8 or 9 resorts depending on conditions, weather and your whims.  Skip Powder Mtn. 

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>Lakeside Properties near Snowbasin

You are staying in the BOONIES!!!

I would suggest a hotel in downtown SLC.  Then you have the very scenic Cottownwood resorts to go it(if it's not snowing), Park City, and Snowbasin - all within a 45 minutes drive, mostly by interstate.  You have nightlife, attractions and lots of restaurants in downtown SLC.  You can easily drive to Snowbasin for one or two days.  I would suggest go there your first day, and later in the week.  Even if a storm comes in, it likely won't be that hard to drive to Park City or Snowbasin, except the last 5 miles or so might have some snowcover.  You could drive up to PC and ski Deer Valley, walk around and enjoy the shops and town, and ski the mtn a half/threequarters day and maybe eat after skiing in town.  You can drive up and enjoy the alpine scenery at legendary Alta(lots of blue runs) if it's not snowing and enjoy the scenery that only AltaBird have to offer in Utah.  On your second day take the beautiful drive up to Brighton and ski the groomers. The best part of SLC is you can wake up each day and pick from 8 or 9 resorts depending on conditions, weather and your whims.  Skip Powder Mtn. 


I would love to stay in SLC and do that, but she'd rather stay at one location (like Ogden, Solitude, Lakeside Properties, Park City, etc.) instead of having to deal with driving.  When I go next time with friends, that's probably what we'll do.  

 

I'm just getting more worried about booking a room at one of the locations, and since we aren't driving, the resort having bad conditions.  Since I'm a teacher, my dates are pretty set in stone with Spring Break.  I still think anything bad in Utah is 100 times better than anything I've skied here in the East (granted I've never been to Utah).  

 

For those asking, I ski mostly blacks here on the East Coast.  My wife is mostly an intermediate skier and will mostly stick to the blues.  She doesn't care about me going to the blacks in Utah without her, so that's not a problem.  Obviously we'll ski together a lot, but I'm still going to venture off some without her.  

 

post #20 of 159

IMHO - you need to prioritize "good ski conditions" vs. "staying in one place". Not always mutually exclusive but in my experience, SLC ski hills have their own micro-climates and just because it snows in BCC/LCC doesn't mean it snows @ Snowbasin.  Staying in SLC allows you to call an audible.  Enjoy.

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IMHO - you need to prioritize "good ski conditions" vs. "staying in one place". Not always mutually exclusive but in my experience, SLC ski hills have their own micro-climates and just because it snows in BCC/LCC doesn't mean it snows @ Snowbasin.  Staying in SLC allows you to call an audible.  Enjoy.



What I'm thinking about doing is just book our flight, and wait until closer to our trip to book our room.  That way we can see which place has or will have the best snow for when we get out there.

post #22 of 159

If downtown is in the picture - most hotel chains will let you cancel up to day of arrival.

post #23 of 159
There won't be any snow to drive in in SLC - bank on that. Its too low elevation. Even in january and february it doesn't snow very much (under 5000ft). In April the chances of snow at road level in park city are slim too as its also low. Snowbasin... Basically same story. The only spot you need to worry about is the tops of the Cottonwood Canyons which are about 5 or 10 minutes of driving. If its too much of a worry hop on a bus at the cottonwood canyon park and ride.

Seriously... You need a car and your wife's fears are largely unfounded.
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>Lakeside Properties near Snowbasin

You are staying in the BOONIES!!!

I would suggest a hotel in downtown SLC.  Then you have the very scenic Cottownwood resorts to go it(if it's not snowing), Park City, and Snowbasin - all within a 45 minutes drive, mostly by interstate.  You have nightlife, attractions and lots of restaurants in downtown SLC.  You can easily drive to Snowbasin for one or two days.  I would suggest go there your first day, and later in the week.  Even if a storm comes in, it likely won't be that hard to drive to Park City or Snowbasin, except the last 5 miles or so might have some snowcover.  You could drive up to PC and ski Deer Valley, walk around and enjoy the shops and town, and ski the mtn a half/threequarters day and maybe eat after skiing in town.  You can drive up and enjoy the alpine scenery at legendary Alta(lots of blue runs) if it's not snowing and enjoy the scenery that only AltaBird have to offer in Utah.  On your second day take the beautiful drive up to Brighton and ski the groomers. The best part of SLC is you can wake up each day and pick from 8 or 9 resorts depending on conditions, weather and your whims.  Skip Powder Mtn. 


Don't get the unqualified "skip powder mountain." Unless you're looking for all-out steeps, which doesn't seem to be the case here, Pow Mow is always worth a look. Pow Mow gets no love. Oh well, those that ski it will continue to suffer wink.gif

 

Also, Pineview isn't exactly the boonies--it's 10 minutes from Ogden.

 

post #25 of 159

As far as driving in snow in Utah - I really wouldn't worry.  Don't know what your wife's background is, but wide roads and diligent plowing make winter life a lot easier than in, say, Southern California mountains when it snows.  Rent a car.  She will likely be so surprised that she insists you return.

 

Any reason you can't split the trip half-and-half?  Maybe a few days at Park City and then the rest in Ogden or Eden?  Park City is what I think she has in mind for shops and a little nightlife.  There's some of that in Ogden, but really only along 25th Street.  Shopping is the whole town in Park City, plus in Kimball Junction there's another little area as well as the Utah Olympic Park.

 

As far as Ogden Valley, we've stayed at Lakeside for years and absolutely love it.  We aren't the party-hearty types but we've been known to head into Ogden for dinner.  Lakeside is very quiet, very peaceful, and the condos really are nice.  We usually drive up from SoCal so I can't speak to the dinner shuttle, but the shuttle service for skiing is great.  However, if you want to take advantage of things like the First Tracks program you'll want a car.

 

I've skied Snowbasin and PowMow.  Powder is still a low-key operation (even though with the cat skiing areas it's HUGE over 7000 acres) and has a more typical mom-and-pop vibe to it.  Snowbasin is the sister resort to Sun Valley (same owners) and has really luxurious lodges and fantastic food.  I didn't get to ski as much of Powder as I would have liked, thanks to very high winds, but I think the draw there is the cat skiing to ungroomed powder runs when they are available.

 

Snowbasin is a nice mixed bag of terrain.  Definitely check with 4ster for the status of the Olympic runs; when I was there last month the director of the ski school said they needed at least 6 more feet of snow to even think about opening that lift.  As of yesterday they'd had six INCHES.  Hopefully this series of storms will change things.  But even if that side of the mountain isn't open, if conditions are good it is totally worth the trip.  If visibility is good and they've had snow recently, skiing the Strawberry side of the mountain from the top is blast (after taking in the view of the Salt Lake Valley from the top first).

 

I think your idea of booking the flight but hanging for a while on the lodging is a very good one.  I had to change a reservation at the last minute at a Marriott in San Diego a couple of weeks ago and ended up saving $100 over 2 nights.  Not sure where you're looking but a quick search on kayak.com showed rooms at the Park City Marriott for $109.  They also have a lot of ski packages on the Marriott website though they look non-refundable.  Also it looks like skiutah.com posts new specials from time to time.....you'll have plenty of options.  Your main task right now, after booking your flight, is to pray for snow - LOTS of snow.

 

 

post #26 of 159

I suggest you stay in Park City.  If you are worried about price, hunt through VRBO.com and you'll find something.  The lodging is a bit pricey, but with so many choices (literally hundreds) it is not that hard to find something in your price range.  Another option is to say at Kimball Junction and see The Canyons from your hotel.  Cheaper there and they even have a shop or two.  But definitely- look at PC first.  That is the place to be if you are skiing in Utah but want a little entertainment for your vacation.  

 

And the skiing is very good.  PCMR has plenty of ungroomed terrain.  Plenty.  If you like steeps, hike the Jupiter area and ski those peaks.  If you like bowls, they have a few and if you are comparing to Solitude- puleeze.  PCMR is 3 times bigger.  Solitude is for.... if you want Solitude.  Peace and quiet.  No one around.  Small hills.  PCMR has much much more to offer.

 

Also, Deer Valley is right around the corner, literally.  Takes maybe 5 minutes to get there in a car from downtown PC.  The Canyons?  Even better and bigger.  That place is fantastic since they fixed the bottleneck at the bottom.  You have a large number of peaks there with all kinds of exposures.  Several very challenging peaks.  Lots of variety.  The one thing Canyons doesn't really have is hike to terrain- expect one area outside of Condor.  

 

So really, from my perspective, Park City is absolutely the best spot in Utah to stay when you can't predict the weather.  When I skied Snowbasin the weather had been lowsy and the snow was horrible.  It was the worst day I had ever had out West.  Great terrain, don't get me wrong, but it's out by itself about an hour away.  If you are staying there and the weather is bad?  You have no choices.

 

Give yourself choices.  If you are dying to ski ungroomed steeps and need to hike to all your runs- stay in South Salt Lake- Sandy or what is it, Midvale?  There probably isn't much shopping without driving, but the hotels are cheaper.  And then ski Snowbird and Alta, and maybe hit Solitude or Brighton. 

 

However, if you want 10,000 acres of skiing and one of the best ski towns in the US, stay in PC and decide when you get there where you will ski each day based on who has snow.  It is true that the Cottonwoods (Alta, Bird, Solitude, Brighton) get more snow annually that PC resorts, but that doesn't always hold true.  The only days you need to worry about are the days you are actually there- and so go to where you have the most options at your finger tips.

 

 

post #27 of 159

You're right about PC being the best all around ski town and I'm not looking to argue your opinions, but a few facts are so wrong they need correcting.

 

"Park City is absolutely the best spot in Utah to stay when you can't predict the weather."

 

Not sure what you mean there, but Park City is definitely not the best place to stay for weather (e.g. snow). That would be the Cottonwoods by far. And Park City is not any more consistent and is more crowded than Snowbasin. Also you do have a choice when at Snowbasin: Powder Mountain, which is right across the valley and averages significantly more snow than either SB or PC.

 

And, yes, it pretty much always does hold true that the Cottonwoods get more annual snow than PC. Not necessarily every storm (though the vast majority), but just look at the annual averages-- they're not very close.SUBMIT

post #28 of 159

Here's the bottom line.

 

Stay in PC. Snowbasin and PowMow (btw, take the skip PowMow advice) are in the middle of nowhere, and Ogden isn't exactly a garden spot to sty in anyway.

 

In PC you'll have Deer Valley, PCMR and The Crayons to play in (and early April is often awesome), or (RENT A CAR) you can go to the Cottonwoods (about 45 minutes) if it starts nuking there foir da bird, Alta, Solitude or Brighton.

 

Honest - don't overthink this. Stay in PC. I typically either stay at the PC Marriott or Kimball Junction, as it's right off the highway, so if it's pounding in the Cottonwoods or Snowbasin I can just jump on the highway and get wherever.

 

Oh, and GET A CAR.

 

 

post #29 of 159

I agree with most here that Park City is the best (and probably only) choice given your requirements.  It may be more expensive overall, but I know there are nice places to stay for much less.  Just look for something that is not "ski-in / ski-out". 

 

Get a car and use PC as your base.  Driving north to Snowbasin / PowMow is mostly interstate (I-80 / I-84), and getting to the mouth of LCC / BCC is also no problem.  Driving up Big and Little Cottonwood Canyons "could" encounter some snow, but you can always just park at the bottom and hop on the bus.

 

And as for "Snowbasin being in the middle of nowhere", I have to disagree.  If you are talking distance from Midvale or Sandy, then yes it is farther than LCC/BCC.  But for those who live farther north (like me), it is quite close.  In fact, it is about 15 minutes from my garage.

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I agree with most here that Park City is the best (and probably only) choice given your requirements.  It may be more expensive overall, but I know there are nice places to stay for much less.  Just look for something that is not "ski-in / ski-out". 

 

Get a car and use PC as your base.  Driving north to Snowbasin / PowMow is mostly interstate (I-80 / I-84), and getting to the mouth of LCC / BCC is also no problem.  Driving up Big and Little Cottonwood Canyons "could" encounter some snow, but you can always just park at the bottom and hop on the bus.

 

And as for "Snowbasin being in the middle of nowhere", I have to disagree.  If you are talking distance from Midvale or Sandy, then yes it is farther than LCC/BCC.  But for those who live farther north (like me), it is quite close.  In fact, it is about 15 minutes from my garage.


But if you're staying in PC as the advice was, then Snowbasin is in the middle of nowhere compared to elsewhere.

 

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