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switching from fluorocarbon to hydrocarbon wax

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If the previous owner of a pair of skis was using fluoro wax and you want to switch to non-fluoro, is there anything special you have to do to prep them first?  Someone told me fluoro wax is so slippery that the regular wax won't stick to the base properly, so you have to use a solvent first.  Is that true?  Or would a few hot-scrapes with the regular wax be enough?

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Originally Posted by renenkel View Post

If the previous owner of a pair of skis was using fluoro wax and you want to switch to non-fluoro, is there anything special you have to do to prep them first?  Someone told me fluoro wax is so slippery that the regular wax won't stick to the base properly, so you have to use a solvent first.  Is that true?  Or would a few hot-scrapes with the regular wax be enough?



IME the answer depends on which non-fluoro wax you're switching to.     Moving to  Maplus or Swix, IME just the hot scrape seemed to work fine.   When I tried the same thing with  Wintersteiger Slik, the result was a gluey sticky mess that took several rounds of base cleaning to get rid of.

 

Honestly, if the bases are saturated with fluoro, I'd just use the wax of the day on them (assuming it doesn't create a mess like my above combo did).    No need to get the fluoro /out/ if it's that deep.

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I go back and forth between fluoros and non with several of my race ski depending if I am racing or training and on temp. In addition to the fluoros the bases are fairly saturated with moly. I have not had a problem with any non fluoro waxes - swix, holmenkol, some dr. d, some dominator.  Particularly with hard cold temp waxes they stick to the fluoro bases just fine so that scraping is every bit as much of a challenge as it is on my rec ski bases (super hard waxes include CH 2, holmenkol, and Arctic from Race Service/SVST). I do  hot wax before applying daily wax sometimes 2 or 3 depending on dirt etc in first scrape.

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You could do a series of hot scrapes.  That should pull any fluoro residues out of the bases.

 

Dennis

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The only fluoro that is a problem is Zardoz liquids, if it's not that then follow the instructions above.

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