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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 

Hey All,

If you've ever lost a ski in deep powder you probably know the truth of the subject of this thread. I lost one of my favorite skis last winter and looked for it for a couple hours before giving up. That led me to create a new product for finding a lost ski in deep powder. Today is the day I'm introducing it to the world, and any feedback would be greatly appreciated. You can ceck it out here - http://powtales.com Epic Ski has always been a great source of information and feedback for me, and I hope you'll post any comments, good or bad.

Thanks,

thebobski

post #2 of 16

I will say this is probably one of the better looking solutions I have seen. Good job not using rainbow webbing.

post #3 of 16

This looks a bit like the powder cords I made last year. I also used a small carabiner that attaches to a small elastic cord on the ski binding. though I put a keychain ring on the end of the elastic to make it easier to clip the carabiner on. Of course the innovation is the thing keeping it in place on your boot. Nice idea.

 

I had trouble finding decent quality nylon webbing locally so I ended up buying a set 12' tie downs and cut off the spring lock thingy and then cut them in half to make 2 sets.

post #4 of 16
Thread Starter 

Ecimmortal and Aschick,

Thanks for replying. As they say, there is nothing new under the sun. Just better ways of getting it done. When I lost my ski last year (and I hate to admit this) I had some powder ribbons (the kind you stuff up your pant leg) in my jacket pocket. Yup. We had been skiing lower on the hill and there was only 4 or 5 inches there so no need to put the powder ribbons on, but then we went to the top and dropped off into 14 inches of fresh and light. You know the rest... That is the reason I wanted the Pow Tales to live on my boots. No more excuses. redface.gif

Bob

post #5 of 16

Wow this is a great idea and much better solution than others I have seen.  Will be ordering these in a week or two.  :)

post #6 of 16

I would probably recommend mounting it on the outside of your boot, with a removable loop/sleeve that the power strap goes through? Nobody wants to glue this to the inside of their boot's permanently.  Plus you want to make it so people can purchase it on a powder day and use it right away!

I would also make a nice counter top display, so you can sell them at point of purchase?  That means you need to make these for under $5, sell them to the merchant for $10 and he can sell them for $19.95.

 

Also change your deployed picture from a groomer to deep snow?

 

Good Luck!

post #7 of 16

As a climber, I would suggest using good carabiners that may actually handle the potential load applied to them. The ones in the picture are freebie quality who's gates can't handle any amount of force without openening/breaking (i.e. losing your ski and defeating the purpose of these devices).

 

Several pairs of good-quality non-locking carabiners (that won't screw up your rope) can be had for less than $20.

post #8 of 16

We have 6' lengths of  grosgrain ribbon that attach by Velcro to our brakes and serve this exact purpose on powder days.  Not so elegant as your solution, and of course, we never thought to commercialize them... dummies that we are!

 

Congratulations and all the best of luck in your endeavor!

post #9 of 16
Thread Starter 

Skierbri10, Thanks for the compliment. I think you'll be happy with your purchase, and please post if you are! Post if you aren't too, of course. I do want to know either way.

Shredhead, I looked at the option you outline and decided I didn't want to mount on the powerstrap because on my boots that would put the holster the ribbon would be stored in right in the way of my upper buckles. That would be an ok solution if you only attach it when you are having a powder day, but not as an "always available" feature. BTW - I have a set on my boots and dont mind that they are there at all. In fact, that's exactly what I want. Always available and ready to go whenever you need them. Also, thanks for the thought about taking pictures in deep snow. Keep thinking those thoughts, Butch! smile.gif We could sure use the snow...

Velobuff, The carabiners pictured are not the ones I'll be using but they are similar and are rated for 65lbs. That's way more than the pressure required to release the break-away strap. I also wanted as small a carabiner as I could get that would thread through the Velcro and form a low profile on the inside of the boot. If I have trouble with them they will be replaced, but I don't anticipate that happening.

skibearll, Thanks very much for the encouragement. Someone else did produce the very item you describe and I had a set of them in my pocket the day I lost my ski. redface.gif

Lastly, Thank you all who have read these posts whether you've responded or not. I hope a seed has been planted, cuz it really ain't no fun looking for a ski on a powder day!

Bob

 

post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 

I finally had a chance to test out the Pow Tales in powder and the results were mixed. Actually, they worked perfectly. Easy to engage and disengage, and they deployed just as they should have, but in the process of recovering the ski I got a lot of heavy wet powder jammed into the hook velcro on the boot. This wet snow couldn't be brushed off and the loop velcro wouldn't adhere as a result. I ended up stuffing the whole thing in my pocket and skied down to the lift feeling quite a little deflated. I was riding the chair by myself so I lifted the boot in question up across my other knee and put my hand over the velcro which melted the snow, and by the time I got off the lift it had all melted.  I reattached the break-away strap and was ready to go. Now I wouldn't recommend doing what I did, and I have shut down my website while I do more testing. I just wanted to let all who were interested know what's going on. After I've had a chance to do more testing I'll come back with the results and determine whether I'll open the website again. Thanks to all for your interest.

Bob

post #11 of 16

maybe try the uni sided industrial "velco" straps where it's more like Tshaped zipper teeth?  Take a look down the hardware aisle it may work better, although it may hold too well.  

 

found it: 3m dual lock

 

http://www.amazon.com/3M-Profile-Reclosable-Fastener-10-Foot/dp/B0006HVM72


Edited by raytseng - 1/24/12 at 11:50am
post #12 of 16
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the suggestion Ray. I'm getting samples sent to me right now, and it sounds promising.

Bob

post #13 of 16
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Hey All,

If you've ever lost a ski in deep powder you probably know the truth of the subject of this thread. I lost one of my favorite skis last winter and looked for it for a couple hours before giving up. That led me to create a new product for finding a lost ski in deep powder. Today is the day I'm introducing it to the world, and any feedback would be greatly appreciated. You can ceck it out here - http://powtales.com Epic Ski has always been a great source of information and feedback for me, and I hope you'll post any comments, good or bad.

Thanks,

thebobski



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post #15 of 16

Other solution. Don't fall in powder.Ott+Wedeln.gif

post #16 of 16
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slider,

If I were going to pick a place to fall, it would probably be powder. At 66 I don't bounce real well anymore.

Bob

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