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post #61 of 67
Originally Posted by jc-ski View Post


A few weeks ago I rode a train downtown, and ended up standing on the flexi part between cars, with nothing to hang onto. I spent part of the ride leaning back into the wall, but part standing free, and it's exactly as you describe.


I was being a bit of a smartass in my earlier post, but actually I think your idea makes a lot of sense. Everyday life does provide interesting opportunities for advancement!  ;-)


Thx for thinking a little out of the box and sharing it. icon14.gif

 I too think the hands free bus riding is a great idea for powder beginners and was just kidding around with my comments.

post #62 of 67
Originally Posted by tetonpwdrjunkie View Post


You can do the same thing in the tram when it swings on the towers. biggrin.gif

When is there room to sway on the tram?

post #63 of 67
Originally Posted by Metaphor_ View Post


Do some skiing shuffling your feet forward and pulling them back throughout turns. Do some skiing "bouncing" by flexing through your ankles, knees and hip and then extending. Try it on groomers, then move into crud, then take into powder.  When you feel resistance at the front of your boot from hitting a heavy spot, drive your feet forward to "catch" your body as it accelerates.


Like this idea, and I've tried some of it, skiing right on the edge of a groomer, going off and back on repeatedly. Short of actually having powder to ski in seems to be a good way to really feel that change of resistance on/in the snow, and have to accommodate it.


Thinking about all this I was wondering if there was some way to fit a treadmill with a variable speed control so that it would quickly slow down and speed up in a kind of random fashion. But then you'd be walking or running, one foot at a time. Not the same thing. Guess a wobble/balance board of some kind might better approximate the balance challenges presented by skiing in variable snow.

post #64 of 67
Originally Posted by Finndog View Post

I would suggest you find a good all temp wax; you should not need to be changing out wax's that often. I use a good universal and only change on sub zero or 40* plus days. good balance will overcome just about anything though. 



I am certainly not an instructor but I find most people who have issues in pow don't keep active, you have to keep the momentum with constant pole plants in combination of flexation and extension or non-stop slarving turns (which involves the same and angulation) but regardless,you have to keep moving toward the next turn. stagnation of the ski's and body kills. 

You sound like all my buddies who think I'm nuts while waiting a minute for me to cork a fresh wax rub on my boards.


Most folks here tend to pride themselves on riding their gear hard, and putting it away wet(takes from beer time) they get a "tune" first week, and ride bare ptex the rest of the season.  Funny how they wear out earlier than I usually do.


It is possible to have "fun" riding scratchy bases, but a nice glide through that pile of fresh/chowder/more dense crud makes it way too easy to see where your next direction is versus slow/fast mixes leaving you to use your balance skills while true vision takes a second place in the skiers' attention.

post #65 of 67

It is way to easy to get all religious about wax. To no good end other than wasting time and money. Yeah, it clearly matters to cover the basics. But there is a ton of crazy religion about it. Like Finndog said, cover the basics and go ski. Most importantly, for my .02, go ski on appropriate modern skis.


I use Hertel Hotsauce for virtually all conditions. At this point I don't even iron it on - just cork it. I've used it from -12 F up through deep spring wet slush. The day after the -12F powder day I was out on the same skis with a cold temp wax. Not one whit better than the Hertel for my purposes. Now I'm not saying that Hertel is magic. Just echoing Finn's point that a good universal wax gets the basic job done at, or above, the level needed by the vast majority of us. Making out that a fancy wax job or race tune will impact powder skiing one whit is just off base. Get a decent basic wax on there & make it happen...

post #66 of 67
My own experience is that it's easier to stay in the centre of a ski that has at least some traditional camber than is the case with a fully rockered ski. My first powder skis were pontoons. They were great but if they had a weakness it was that when skiing off piste I could sometimes get pushed backwards or forwards and not be able to recover immediately. This was something that a bit of mileage cured. However I have found that as far as powder skis are concerned it's easier to stay centred when the skis have traditional camber combined with early rise rocker in the tip and tails. The trade off is that fully rockered skis pivot extremely easily and can turn on a dime.
post #67 of 67

Hey Jave.


I hope you have a great season in the deep stuff. I reviewed much of the feed back on your thread and I saw a lot of good stuff. Don't think anyone really hit the nail on the head for you. So I will give it a shot. Below is a video I put together last spring. Sorry cheap phone camera made for bad picture and audio. Hope you get the idea.



K. sounds like you have a good ski. It may be a little big for your build and ability. None the less it is a good floater.

Yes, wax does help. But is not a direct hit for your off balance.

Physical condition and visualization are your friends. If you are not balanced you will fight and tire out quickly.



If possible straight run the slope and bounce up and down before your first turn. This will help to find the center of your balance and create some rhythm.

Move your feet under your body, not your body over your feet.

Keep a tight core by flexing your ab mussels.

Look ahead and DO NOT LEAN BACK.

In deep show set up a platform by using both skis as one. Almost equal pressure on both depending on snow quality, slope pitch and turn shape.


Hope this helps.


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