nope! Bode is a highly paid skier (partially by Kjus) so you think you are just like bode its good stuff, I wouldn't want it for skiing trees all the time and side country. It's what I call "resort wear". There's nothing wrong with it, its good stuf, well made and beats the crap out of spyder and other "resort wear". most of us don't want phone leashes built in balaclava's or the many other "features" that recreational front side skiers tend to like. Not that any of that stuff is bad, I used to like jackets like that but as you ski different terrain and such, you realize they are not useful and are actually just extra weigth and unused features. There's also a big difference between a dermazaz DWR product and a gore, Event, or DryQ other membrane based fabric.
He doesn't hold his edges as well as I do :)
Personal opinion on the features. I didn't realize that I liked them until I had them!
Also, Dermizax DWR is a PE laminate, not DWR.
FIXED it for you.
Thanks for your review. You have provided some anecdotal evidence that the gear performs well in your experience, and a little info on materials, but I want more info, just the facts, preferably the science behind the materials too.
My $150 Far West Jacket is wearing out. Let's have a little more science as to why I should pay $1500. for KJUS, or $1000. for an Arcteryx shell and insulated combo for that matter, instead of $10 bucks for some more water-proofing, scrounge another new twist tie for the zipper pull (so I can unzip it), and just add a fleece pull-over and some long johns for the cold days.
How's it work at -40 (not counting wind chill)?
I'm an engineer and usually prefer to look at the data too. However, with the use of various materials and layers of materials on different parts of the jacket, it is very hard to do a scientific comparison and almost impossible to do it well. Thus, anecdotal evidence is more appropriate.
Looks like upgrading your jacket is a judgement call. I spent $200 on my Kjus jacket.
No idea at -40. I've never been anwhere that cold.
LOL... first time I've seen Arcteryx and Patagonia referred to as second rate.
But are we really talking about a difference between a Bugatti Veyron vs a Corvette ZR-1 or a Nissan GT-R for that matter? The Veyron is 1 second faster around the topgear test track but 25x the price.
I think any of the mentioned brands would satisfy most mortals. It really boils down to what one can afford and where one wants to spend the $$$. Let's see... Patagonia + 8 lift tickets or a Kjus... Hmmm...
Well at least the Kjus gear sn't butt ugly like the Bogner stuff.
Also never thought Arc or Patagonia was second rate until I started using Kjus. I love all my Acteryx gear, just love my Kjus so much better.
I like Kjus much better, but I still wouldn't call them second rate. I still have a few Arc'Teryx jackets that I wear on occassion- Hercules, Gamma MX and a Paclite one for warm weather, I just don't wear them skiing.