I didn't say they all had Velcro, I said all that I HAVE SEEN had velcro and are adjustable. I also never said the coats were a knockoff, No, I said it could have been a 2nd or a Sample or a discontinued model!
What is not fair is you posting incessantly hammering Kjus's entire product line using one crappy discounted jacket as an example of the enitre line!
Reminds me of 60 minutes and Audi's intended acceleration smear!
Who are you? Tthe Morley Safer of ski wear?
About time you gave a somewhat fair assessment of the Formula Pant,
Although, you carry a wallet skiing and keep your camera in your pant pocket? That is 1st rate Gaperdom & doesn't that interfere with your hip angulation ?
Thanks so much for interjecting. The point which was apparently lost on the clueless was that for the same money (actually a bit more) in the Kjus, you get a piece with far less capability and materials (and design) than is readily available elsewhere. When looking at "apples and apples", the difference is even far more pronounced, in that (see post 95),when comparing an Alpha SL (super lightweight) which retails for barely half the Kjus Bryce, the comparison will be a bloodbath. Value for $ just isn't there, just not even in the same ballpark with comparing apples to gaperfruits or whatever when the Bryce is the subject.
So let's take a look at fit -
How would you like this neck fit? -
Looks miserably tight right? Yup, I can tell you it is, and that's without anything underneath.
The Arc piece (and the Alpha AR and SL fit the same) is like this, meant for alpine environments versus gaping-
Oh, and the Kjus is an XL, and the Arcteryx is a Large. Well, as said before "there is no comparison". Correct
So, let's move along a little. Let's see, the accusation is that I have some bogus piece from STP, and that it's not close to the "real thing". Words, words, words. Let's try a picture eh?
Take a stroll to the Whistler Kjus store, and what do we find - OMG, a Kjus Bryce (hmmmm, this'll be fun). So, hmmm, "
The Bryce's I have seen all have velcro closures on the cuff."
Oh, okay, oakey doke -
Elastic - REALLY!? But wait, I thought ALL Bryce's have velcro closures (easy to say withoput evidence, eh?)
Hmm. Now let's see, this is a jacket at the Kjus Whistler store:
And here's my "bogus" one from STP-
Hmmm, so what does this mean.
It has to mean that the Whistler Kjus store is also selling seconds and knock-off's (at full zoot btw) - right?
OK, who's going to call Kjus and tell them their store's selling bogus goods - A-man? C'mon, you've been so vehement that I have a bogus piece - put up your Bryce pics, and let's see.
So, here's the bottom line:
Price wise, the Bryce is a complete rip-off. It can't compete with the Arc SL (yes, yes, the lightweight piece - apples to apples remember?), which retails for over $200 LESS than the Bryce, and certainly can't compete with other brands in it's price range. Certainly Arc isn't known for bargins, so for sure you can find something better for half price or less. "Gaperwear?" - this piece yes - how can anyone (OK, let's use a thinking human as reference) buy this, even at a far discounted price like I got it, and not know they got screwed? The Marmot piece I keep in my trunk in case it rains that I bought for about $60 reminds me of the Bryce. Not only are the materials substandard at this price, but the fit is dismal (what are they thinking with that collar?), with the elastic sleeves being the final straw.
I know from the Kjus store that my jacket is an up-to date representative of the Bryce, so again, someone who'd buy this would have to be completely clueless about what's available at similar or far less money.
Oh, and yes, sometimes I ski in the rain too (like today). Snow at the top, and rain most elsewhere. Real skiers ski, not so real, well apparently not so much. Get better gear then the weather won't be such a factor