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multi tuners vs individual base/edge tuners

post #1 of 10
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My apologies if this has been discussed before.  I am in process of putting my tune "kit" together and am not sure if multi tuners are the way to go or getting an fixed angle tuner.  If I was going to go multi tuner, I was thinking the tools4boards uberstation or super station both of which come with the xacti tuner.  The other option was a beast base tuner and maybe the swix edge tuner with assorted grit files.  Any suggestions?  Bear in mind we are not racing or doing any mind blowing type of skiing.

 

thx

post #2 of 10

Fixed angle. I have a multi-tuner, but I don't feel that the precision is there in keeping the angle fixed. If you are just a teensy bit off the set angle, you're basically UN-sharpening the ski when you start polishing. That's the reason I started doing my own filing, because when I'd ask for a given bevel it would come back nice and sharp but the first time I tuned and polished the side bevel, it would lose sharpness. I realized that if the thing holding the file wasn't the same thing holding the diamond stone, this was inevitable. The multi-tuner has a dial that you turn from one angle to another. Yes, it clicks into place, but I don't feel it is EXACTLY THE SAME every single time nor that it HOLDS that setting reliably.

post #3 of 10

I have a separate fixed angle guide for each different angle I use.

post #4 of 10
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post
The multi-tuner has a dial that you turn from one angle to another. Yes, it clicks into place, but I don't feel it is EXACTLY THE SAME every single time nor that it HOLDS that setting reliably.


Any opinions about using a fixed angle guide plus the separate shims to give +1, +2, +3 degrees etc?  Are those as good as fixed guides with the same angle?

 

post #5 of 10

I can speak to the Sun Valley Ski Tools side edge angle guide with the shims: it works great, is easy to use, and is very consistent. I have not tried other brands.

post #6 of 10

From what you describe, I would think so.  But, no experience with them.  
 

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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post
The multi-tuner has a dial that you turn from one angle to another. Yes, it clicks into place, but I don't feel it is EXACTLY THE SAME every single time nor that it HOLDS that setting reliably.


Any opinions about using a fixed angle guide plus the separate shims to give +1, +2, +3 degrees etc?  Are those as good as fixed guides with the same angle?

 



 

post #7 of 10

I go with fixed angle edge tuners, if only to save time by not messing with the settings on the tuner.  Also nice to have multiple of the same angle so you don't have to mess with putting in different grit diamond  stones.  Depends how many skis you need to tune and how often you do it.

post #8 of 10

I tuned skis professionally for 3 years. If you aren't racing and if you just ski get a 2 degree edge bevel and don't even waste your money on a base. But if you do get an adjustable get a nice, expensive one. The crappy ones break and dont do that good of a job. With tuning equipment with the exception of wax and files you only  need to buy it once so you might as well buy nice stuff.

post #9 of 10

One of the advantages of the multi angle holders is that they offer up to 6 degrees settings. World Cup racers use 3 or 4 degrees side bevel but when trying to cut a 4 degree bevel on some skis the file bumps into the ski's side wall. So selecting a 6 degree setting and first shaving the side wall solves this problem.

post #10 of 10

First off you need flat bases to get the correct angle.

 

Tuning skis is easy if you make the investment. Over the years I have gotten better with the more tools I have.

 

I also have a couple of Steel 93 and a 92 edge guide. I set my skis at 1 and 3. I have some friends that still like 1 and 2.

 

I will flatten the base first then take my 1* base tool and just lightly pull the diamond stone down the edge to knock off any high spots that will scratch the iron, Then I grab the 93 guide and use the diamond stone there.

 

I don't file unless I have too. Then a use a 1" long Panzer clamped to the 93 edge guide backed up with the diamond stone. Then wax them.

 

(I cut the side wall back the first time I tune new skis.)

 

  

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