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post #1 of 17
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Just got some bad news: The fullness/heaviness/tugging in the left groin, the burning in the inguinal area upon palpitation or sitting/resting on my back... appears to be a sports hernia (which is NOT a true hernia). 

 

I'm 29 y/o, fit, life-long active person. Was a competitive gymnast when younger, and played competitive soccer (this injury is most prevalent in professional soccer players) player partway into college. These days I cycle (road/cycle-cross style, but not racing), and have gotten back into skiing (expert, done this since 5/6 y/o, but just got back from a 5/6 year break). 

 

In any case, the dr I went to is something of a world-renown expert (she treats many pro athletes in Europe, and some flown in from the U.S.), and she very quickly diagnosed sports hernia via physical exam and high-res ultrasound. She said she could feel the spot (though not a bulge like a typical inguinal hernia) with her finger, and the image shows up in the US. Surgery is tentatively scheduled for Feb 1.

 

According to her (and I'm sure this is over-optimistic), restrictions are: 20kg (44 lb) day of surgery, return to jogging/cycling 2 days post-op, and dropping of all restrictions (specifically discussed off-piste/tree/powder skiing here in the alps) anytime after post-op days 10 to 14. That doesn't mean I won't have pain, tightness, and weakness... but that I can (and should) return to full activity quickly. This doctor invented her own surgery, based on the Shouldice technique, called the Minimal Repair technique-- non-mesh, and limited to a small area (open surgery, 2 to 4 inch incision). With pro athletes, the regimen for return to full training is post-op day 5. 

 

The main issues I have are that "sports hernia" is a disagreed upon injury, with inconsistencies on what causes it and how to best treat it. Surgery is never taken lightly (it comes with risks and recovery that can last up to a year). She says it'll only get worse, and could become a true inguinal hernia in a couple years (and it's pretty damn consistent that the medical field says true hernias ONLY progress, and ONLY get repaired through surgery). 

 

As is always the case: I find LOTS of praise for this doc and her technique (she only does hernia repair, and she's operated on 12,000 in the last two decades), but a couple of people who claim her procedure didn't work or she wasn't great about follow up problems. And, her repair technique, while it has roots in established procedures, is still relatively new (though near/medium term data suggests it works really, really well). 

 

Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone else has experience with sports hernia (Gilmore's Groin, Sportsman's Groin)? Have you had it repaired surgically (or not)? How quickly could you return to sport? How long did pain persist? 

 

What am I looking at? (In other simple surgies, on relatively non-complicated areas, I've had great recovery, little scarring, and no lasting pain/tenderness/numbness... but this would be a more complicated area to get worked on). 

 

Doc says Feb 1 surgery, back on the slopes (perhaps in pain, but as aggressive as I want) by end of Feb. I'm hoping I can at least take moderate runs by March (even if there's pain/tightness). 

 

This whole thing sucks. And I'm definitely worried about getting surgery at such a young age-- and potentially having life-long issues (or having this cut into my activeness). On the other hand, this surgery is specifically designed to prevent more serious life-long issues and loss of activity... 

 

I'll take moral support too (kinda joking). 

post #2 of 17
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Oh, I should include that I have a planned trip to Lapland in Finland (above the arctic circle) Feb 25 to Mar 3. Won't be skiing-focused, notably because the mountains are fells-- gently slopped, above-the-trees. But I do plan on 2 to 3 days social downhill (lighter than normal), 2 or 3 days x-country, and some snow-showing, sauna-ing, and ice-pond swimming. 

 

Surgeon suggested I'd be BETTER getting the surgery before this trip, and that the surgery shouldn't cause me to miss any of these activities-- whereas given the nerve inflammation I have now, there's a good chance the trip would feel worse (but still be doable, pain aside) pre-surgery and so close post-surgery. 

 

This is dependent on the whole Minimal Repair surgery, as opposed to the mesh or traditional open repairs (that take much longer to heal.... reportedly). 

post #3 of 17

I would get it done ASAP.

Congratulations on finding a good MD.

post #4 of 17

yeah, sports hernias are tricky things with a lot of differing opinions and approaches. Having had one, I can only speak to my situation. The term sports hernia's is almost a general, catch-all phrase,.  There is not a specific "sports hernia"; it manifests itself differently depending on the location of the injury.  Its essentally an injury to the general groin area that won't heal. It will usually heal up, then fail once you get to a certain degree of recovery. Usually, you will only see it more serious athletes as it won't fail until pushed. MRI's are good but don't show everything. When my surgeon got inside, he found a "direct" hernia that was pretty large that didn't show up on the scan. BTW- most sports hernia won't show up on an MRI. . I had ther mesh due to the type of weakenss.

 

You need to be very careful and enure you are getting the right treatment. As far as healing that quick; enough for skiing, I can't comment.

 

Its a very frustrating injury and I am glad you found a doctor that takes it seriously. I had to go to 4 different docs before I found one that did.  I wish you a speedy and full recovery.

post #5 of 17

I love when a topic comes up that I actually can be considered an expert...unlike skiing.  Justruss, you have clearly done a great deal of homework and you are correct that the term "sports hernia" is a misnomer.  It is also referred to as "athletic pubalgia" and is essentially a slight tearing of the muscles at the pubic bone and is very common in soccer players because of the imbalance in strength between their legs and core.  It is thought that it will heal by itself but it takes a long time of inactivity and that is frequently not desired or practical.  In Finn's case, he apparently actually had a true hernia in the area so the original diagnosis of sports hernia would be in doubt.

 

As far as repairs go, I am unfamiliar with the repair you refer to but if you send me the surgeon's name it would be easier for me to look up her repair.  If she is that well know she has probably published and I would like to read about her repair.  It may be something I can use.  The Shouldice repair is certainly well known and good but it is so relatively complex that few outside of the Shouldice Clinic have been able to reproduce their results.  Most surgeons, including me, repair sports hernias in a similar fashion as a regular hernia...with mesh.  It doesn't mean it is better, just different and what most of us are familiar with instead of trying to invent a new operation.  As far as recovery goes, I would be surprised if you could get back to the activity level allowed in the proposed time frame just based on pain.  Probably won't damage anything but pain will be the limiting factor.  I play it very conservatively and restrict activities for 2 weeks and then let patients increase their activity as their pain will allow.

 

Good luck and let me know if you have any other questions.

post #6 of 17

Allowing "pain" to be the limiting factor only works on some people.  Different people not only have different tolerances and differing abilities to ignore the pain that they do feel and stubbornly do what they have decided to do despite the pain.  I, for example, have had many setbacks due to not stopping an activity when it would have been wise to do so. 

post #7 of 17

Just in case you didn't figure this out, Pwdrhnd is in fact an expert as he is a surgeon. Very smart and very helpful guy!  I owe him several beers now!

 

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I love when a topic comes up that I actually can be considered an expert...unlike skiing.  Justruss, you have clearly done a great deal of homework and you are correct that the term "sports hernia" is a misnomer.  It is also referred to as "athletic pubalgia" and is essentially a slight tearing of the muscles at the pubic bone and is very common in soccer players because of the imbalance in strength between their legs and core.  It is thought that it will heal by itself but it takes a long time of inactivity and that is frequently not desired or practical.  In Finn's case, he apparently actually had a true hernia in the area so the original diagnosis of sports hernia would be in doubt.

 

As far as repairs go, I am unfamiliar with the repair you refer to but if you send me the surgeon's name it would be easier for me to look up her repair.  If she is that well know she has probably published and I would like to read about her repair.  It may be something I can use.  The Shouldice repair is certainly well known and good but it is so relatively complex that few outside of the Shouldice Clinic have been able to reproduce their results.  Most surgeons, including me, repair sports hernias in a similar fashion as a regular hernia...with mesh.  It doesn't mean it is better, just different and what most of us are familiar with instead of trying to invent a new operation.  As far as recovery goes, I would be surprised if you could get back to the activity level allowed in the proposed time frame just based on pain.  Probably won't damage anything but pain will be the limiting factor.  I play it very conservatively and restrict activities for 2 weeks and then let patients increase their activity as their pain will allow.

 

Good luck and let me know if you have any other questions.



 

post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 

Many thanks to all who have answered so far. I'm continuing to follow this thread. 

 

And yes, I've been PM'ing with Pwdrhnd-- and may well owe him some beers down the line too! 

post #9 of 17

I am way more likely to get to Steamboat and collect on those beers than I am to get to Bavaria any time soon.

 

Ghost, the reason I put restrictions on for the first two weeks is so that people with tolerance like you don't blow the repair, although I doubt it would be possible.  After two weeks I really don't care how much activity people have but you have to give them some guidelines so how they tolerate pain works as well as any.

post #10 of 17

Anytime my friend! 

 

with the mesh, I can tell you, you won't feel like pushing it. It literally felt like something would tear out if you moved the wrong way or over did it. 

post #11 of 17
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Anytime my friend! 

 

with the mesh, I can tell you, you won't feel like pushing it. It literally felt like something would tear out if you moved the wrong way or over did it. 



 So I've heard (from my father: bilateral, traditional inguinal hernia at ~60 y/o, fixed with mesh, slower than planned recovery, but great a few years on).

 

 Finndog: How does it feel now, a few years later re the mesh? Do you feel like you've lost range of movement or flexibility? Any strange feelings at the incision cite(s)? What I've heard about the mesh is that when done right, it holds super well (not likely to get another hernia)-- but that it irritates a lot of folks, ~30%, for some time (my dad had pain for about a year, though minor) before calming down, and can have negative consequences re flexibility (the mesh can't be stretched like a muscle). 

post #12 of 17

I still have some occasional, minor pain in the lower abdomen and into my upper thigh/adductors. Go back and look at that thread, I had some significant bleeding from the groin area into the upper thigh along the adductors. Mine went a long time before I could find a dr who would do anything since I had no signs of a hernia. I lost a good amount of the ability to use my leg. (coudln't raise it sitting or draw it across my body. (Even though dr's said it would be fine BTW) It hasn't slowed me down since the surgery and I keep my core in very good shape while stretching the adductors and doing excercises to keep those areas strong.

 

I did it that in december (forget what year now) and then rehab'd it for a few weeks it got about 80% better, then failed again, I would rest it 3 weeks and it would fail again..  I wrapped it and even wore a hernia brace skiing. Stayed on soft snow and as long as I didn't try to make angles (engaging the adductors) I was pretty good. Skiing powder was fine!  I skied on it till March when I just couldn't deal with it. It will worsen over time.    Eventually my rehab place said they wouldnt treat me anymore as it was not healing and the leg function was deteriorating

 

There's really no choice here guy, you have to get it fixed one way or another.

post #13 of 17
Hello all, I hope you can help. I was in hospital last night for a sports hernia operation and I'm interested in the recovery period also. I live in the UK and my surgeon was Kevin Clarke based at the Spire Hospital in Washington North East England.
I was told no lifting for '8 weeks' driving for '2 weeks' but to start doing 3 15min walks per day straight away then he will increase that to 20 next week. I did the injury running (on a treadmill and probably too fast), and I do run quie a bit. Had a marathon planned 6th may which I have pulled out of.
Can anyone suggest anything else to help speed up my recovery as I want to get back ASAP? Thanks
post #14 of 17

Best of luck to you!  Sounds like what the doc said to me too.  Here's the deal, you don't want F' this up!  you need to follow the orders very closely., did you go the mesh repair route? if so, the body needs to knit over this and that takes time, its easy to pull that out and jeopardize the maximum recovery value. See if the doc can recommend a PT that knows how the best protocol but you need to let it heal. 

post #15 of 17
Me i am 64 yr old. I have had some right groin pain off and on for years. Most frequently after long drives in the car or long hours at the desk. Numerous docs administered the "turn your head and cough test" and found no traditional hernia. I Tweaked it this winter in a fall but never missed a day of downhill. I did try cross country for the first time and stopped after an hour because i could feel the groin and hamstring getting tight. It seemed that my right leg was uncomfortable extending behind my body. For a few nights I could not sit up in bed or lift my leg without some pain but that went away(90%)after a week.
Last week my urologist said it must be a sports hernia and referred me to a sports Otho doc. Ortho doc xrayed and examined and said it was likely a sports hernia but since I was not in significant pain he recommended no action, no therapy, no restrictions, no predictions about it getting better or worse. He said he did not recommend an MRI since he did not think I should consider surgery and besides the MRI was not always conclusive.
At first Ithought I got good advice by a doc who was conservative and cost concious. Now I am thinking Surely there is something I should do or not do that would reduce the likelihood of additional injury. Anyone with any thoughts?
post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by steveturner View Post

Me i am 64 yr old. I have had some right groin pain off and on for years. Most frequently after long drives in the car or long hours at the desk. Numerous docs administered the "turn your head and cough test" and found no traditional hernia. I Tweaked it this winter in a fall but never missed a day of downhill. I did try cross country for the first time and stopped after an hour because i could feel the groin and hamstring getting tight. It seemed that my right leg was uncomfortable extending behind my body. For a few nights I could not sit up in bed or lift my leg without some pain but that went away(90%)after a week.
Last week my urologist said it must be a sports hernia and referred me to a sports Otho doc. Ortho doc xrayed and examined and said it was likely a sports hernia but since I was not in significant pain he recommended no action, no therapy, no restrictions, no predictions about it getting better or worse. He said he did not recommend an MRI since he did not think I should consider surgery and besides the MRI was not always conclusive.
At first Ithought I got good advice by a doc who was conservative and cost concious. Now I am thinking Surely there is something I should do or not do that would reduce the likelihood of additional injury. Anyone with any thoughts?

 

There is a school of thought that physical therapy is possible to halt/support early sports hernias where not much damage has yet been done. There is also a believe that sports hernia might be an incipient, or early sign of, true inguinal hernia. As far as the literature I've reviewed-- neither case has been well supported by methodologically strong studies. Case studies are nice, but double-blind controlled studies are lacking. It's a bit of a crap shoot. What's not clear is that sports hernias go on to become true hernias-- though a weakness in the inguinal canal would, from a common sense perspective, suggest the area is more likely to take further damage-- and wether one can address the primary cause (poor alignment, poor flexibility, out of balance musculature, too tight hip flexors, etc) to prevent the issue from worsening (or even coming back AFTER surgery). 

 

See this: http://www.sportsherniasouth.com/Sports-Hernia-Surgery.html

 

I believe the physician also has a PT regimen he will share (I did email him months ago); he works with a few college/pro sports teams. 

 

I was scheduled to have surgery early Feb with one of the world's leaders on the condition-- who basically believes that surgery is the only viable option-- but I cancelled because I didn't want to lose my season of skiing.

 

I've since had a great skiing season, including XC, and now I'm starting my cycling season. When I was consistently stretching (common to find people with sports hernias play soccer and sit in chairs a long-- short, tight, too-strong hip flexors), I felt great. Once or twice I've had a twinge. 

 

I may well still get surgery, but I see no rush at this point. That said, I'm feeling no pain after that first acute episode-- but if the pain starts to rear its head, I'll be more inclined to do something as invasive as surgery (chronic pain is a strong predictor, according to some of what I've read, for trouble post-surgery, as is young age... so finding the balance seems important to me). And while hernia/sports hernia is a common procedure these days, it is still invasive like any surgery, and still has plenty of potential pitfalls. 

post #17 of 17

I am a 51 year old triathlete (female) who last year pulled a groin muscle in the middle of racing season. I sought treatment about 2 weeks after I pulled the muscle and was able to compete in 2 more races before I pulled the other groin muscle.

 

I laid off vigorous activity for about a month or so and then cycled and weight trained. Earlier this year when I began to train again I was having real problems so I sought an appointment with one of the top sports docs here in DC who ordered an MRI and sent me to PT. I had a lot of scar tissue which the therapy helped rid me of but I've been going on and off for therapy since March and only the deep tissue massage and ultrasound seem to help.

 

I did compete in a mini-tri, 14.0 race and Iron Girl sprint but have really ceased exercising as much as the pain has become much worse. I should mention that I have to have a toe fusion in December and I'm wondering if that is contributing to the problem. I won't be able to race next year but will use a recumbent bike and lift weights.

 

This groin injury however is not getting any better even with rest and I'm worried I've torn it. I have a bad burning sensation and it is very tight. Any suggestions anyone has would be great!

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