or Connect
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ski Gear Discussion › How much does ski width affect performance?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

How much does ski width affect performance?

Poll Results: What types of skis are the best overall?

 
  • 0% (0)
    Powder
  • 71% (5)
    All Mountain
  • 14% (1)
    All Mountain Twin
  • 0% (0)
    Park Twin
  • 0% (0)
    Trick Skis
  • 0% (0)
    Cambered Twin
  • 0% (0)
    Full Rocker
  • 0% (0)
    Tip Rocker
  • 14% (1)
    Tip and Tail Rocker
7 Total Votes  
post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

 I'm looking at a pair of skis that have a 90mm width, and I don't know how much this will affect their performance on hardpack and ice and on how well they can carve, since otherwise, they have everything I want (mostly tip and tail rocker w/ camber underfoot). I really want to know how well they do on ice more than how well they do on hardpack, keep in mind that these are cambered, just powder rockered.

post #2 of 10

First, your poll doesn't make any sense.  There's no such thing as "best overall."  Every ski is a set of compromises, and what's best for you probably won't be best for me, depending on our priorities.  Also, your categories don't even make a whole lot of sense.  A cambered twin could easily be an all mountain twin or a park ski.  A fully rockered ski could be a powder ski or an all mountain ski (the newer volkl bridge and goat, for example).

 

Second of all, your poll doesn't have anything to do with the question you asked?

 

Third, how well the ski in question (whatever ski it may be, you'd definitely get more useful information if you actually asked about a specific ski instead of providing vague information) will do on hardpack is dependent on a *lot* more factors than just width.  Construction, camber profile, your skills, etc. all are arguably more important than waist width.

post #3 of 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by oggabogg View Post

 I'm looking at a pair of skis that have a 90mm width, and I don't know how much this will affect their performance on hardpack and ice and on how well they can carve, since otherwise, they have everything I want (mostly tip and tail rocker w/ camber underfoot). I really want to know how well they do on ice more than how well they do on hardpack, keep in mind that these are cambered, just powder rockered.



Much depends on you, the driver. As far as individual skis, width is only one part of the design brief. There are skis that are wider than 90 that work very well on ice and hard pack. They don't turn as quickly or hold as well as a 68mm waisted slalom ski, but then again that slalom ski isn't going to do you any favors off piste in crud or powder. Other than that, we know nothing about where you ski, your ability, weight, etc., so there's really no way to reasonably answer your poll.

 

By the way, what are 'trick skis'?

post #4 of 10

You also didn't define 'performance' in any meaningful way.  The poll makes absolutely no sense.

 

Wide skis that are stiff, especially torsionally, will hold on firm snow or ice even at high speeds.  However, I personally find them to be a lot more work and less fun than a dedicated carver, and from a physics perspective it's harder to get leverage as the ski gets wider.  (You have to tip your ankle further to get your weight over the edge of the ski, and there's more horizontal motion required for the same amount of edging.)  Very soft skis will not hold on ice, at least at speed.

 

Basically, the better a ski performs on ice, generally the worse it's going to perform in soft snow, and vice versa.  The question is where you want to be on that tradeoff.

post #5 of 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by oggabogg View Post

  I really want to know how well they do on ice...



Then demo a pair of the suckers and find out.  I assume "ice" is available on a regular basis where you ski, otherwise you wouldn't be asking.

 

 

BTW, there are 90mm waisted skis that carve well and have great edge grip on "ice".  There are 65mm waisted skis that wash out when you try to carve and won't hold an edge worth a damn.  If all that mattered was the number, we'd make our own skis in the garage by cutting a pattern out of plywood and save a lot of money.

post #6 of 10

Worst. Poll. Ever.

post #7 of 10

Anybody look at his/her only other post?  Talking about 120-128cm JR skis.confused.gif

post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 

Sorry about the vague information... just wondering how a pair of Bent Chetlers would fare on ice and hardpack. 

post #9 of 10

Flawed pole; there's no FIS GS race ski.

post #10 of 10

Not very well, they're powder skis.
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by oggabogg View Post

Sorry about the vague information... just wondering how a pair of Bent Chetlers would fare on ice and hardpack. 



 

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Ski Gear Discussion
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ski Gear Discussion › How much does ski width affect performance?