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What exactly does this mean?  Of the reviews of the skis that I want, they say things like, you really have to push them to get the most out of them.  Others will be specific when saying thing like: turn technique will be rewarding; ski forward to get best perforance etc. 

 

It's hard for me to find a ski that best fits me.  I'm 6'2, 230.  Had the whiteouts because of less metal, yet stable.  Ski great and are precise edge to edge, but I over-powered them when staight-lining, especially after jumps.  Now have the Mantras which are sweet, but have a higher set Frische Diamir Binding and do not handle the Southern Cal hard-pack like the whiteouts do.  I'm sure they'd be great after a good snowfall at Telluride.  Yet, the Mantra plow though junk that we have at mountain high.  Little awkward to jump probably because of the width under foot and icy ass jumps.  I just landed a used pair of Apache Xplorers, which feel really heavy.  I have yet to take them out, but I can tell that they willl handle on-piste well given the side cut and weight. 

 

So question is, what do you all think is the best wider ski that can handle it all that would be not to heavy to jump, have good edge grip and handle the powder a junk?  Of specific of the ski you think is best, what size in the particular ski.  I was told to go a size shorter in the Mantra due to its bias toward the front side for it's size.  I was gearing toward the Nomad Savage because of its aparent ability for pow and edge grip, but then again , I then hear that you have to ski them "forward" to "get the most out of them"

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Originally Posted by Thomas Esteves View Post

What exactly does this mean?  Of the reviews of the skis that I want, they say things like, you really have to push them to get the most out of them.  Others will be specific when saying thing like: turn technique will be rewarding; ski forward to get best perforance etc. 

 

It's hard for me to find a ski that best fits me.  I'm 6'2, 230.  Had the whiteouts because of less metal, yet stable.  Ski great and are precise edge to edge, but I over-powered them when staight-lining, especially after jumps.  Now have the Mantras which are sweet, but have a higher set Frische Diamir Binding and do not handle the Southern Cal hard-pack like the whiteouts do.  I'm sure they'd be great after a good snowfall at Telluride.  Yet, the Mantra plow though junk that we have at mountain high.  Little awkward to jump probably because of the width under foot and icy ass jumps.  I just landed a used pair of Apache Xplorers, which feel really heavy.  I have yet to take them out, but I can tell that they willl handle on-piste well given the side cut and weight. 

 

So question is, what do you all think is the best wider ski that can handle it all that would be not to heavy to jump, have good edge grip and handle the powder a junk?  Of specific of the ski you think is best, what size in the particular ski.  I was told to go a size shorter in the Mantra due to its bias toward the front side for it's size.  I was gearing toward the Nomad Savage because of its aparent ability for pow and edge grip, but then again , I then hear that you have to ski them "forward" to "get the most out of them"

 

seriously what are you asking?

 

 

 

post #3 of 6

to answer your first question,

"you really have to push them to get the most out of them"  means you have to apply force and energy to the ski for it to function as intended.

 

If you have played golf, I think an analogy would be like the golf club stiffness.  Stiffer shafts are fitted to people with faster swing speeds.   It does not mean that stiffer shafts are just better shafts across the board, they need to match the player.

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Originally Posted by Thomas Esteves View Post

What exactly does this mean?  Of the reviews of the skis that I want, they say things like, you really have to push them to get the most out of them.  Others will be specific when saying thing like: turn technique will be rewarding; ski forward to get best perforance etc. 

 

It's hard for me to find a ski that best fits me.  I'm 6'2, 230.  Had the whiteouts because of less metal, yet stable.  Ski great and are precise edge to edge, but I over-powered them when staight-lining, especially after jumps.  Now have the Mantras which are sweet, but have a higher set Frische Diamir Binding and do not handle the Southern Cal hard-pack like the whiteouts do.  I'm sure they'd be great after a good snowfall at Telluride.  Yet, the Mantra plow though junk that we have at mountain high.  Little awkward to jump probably because of the width under foot and icy ass jumps.  I just landed a used pair of Apache Xplorers, which feel really heavy.  I have yet to take them out, but I can tell that they willl handle on-piste well given the side cut and weight. 

 

So question is, what do you all think is the best wider ski that can handle it all that would be not to heavy to jump, have good edge grip and handle the powder a junk?  Of specific of the ski you think is best, what size in the particular ski.  I was told to go a size shorter in the Mantra due to its bias toward the front side for it's size.  I was gearing toward the Nomad Savage because of its aparent ability for pow and edge grip, but then again , I then hear that you have to ski them "forward" to "get the most out of them"


Umm I'm not sure what you mean by to heavy to jump?. My park skis are one of the heaviest pairs I own and width under foot has nothing to do with a skis ability to jump. Maybe your bindings are loose?

 

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seriously what are you asking?


I don't think he knows.

 

post #6 of 6

It's a race to see whether ski technique or ski gear can be described using the most useless jargon.

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