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Volks Kendo top sheet is chipping off

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 

Folks, Has anyone experienced or heard of the top sheet chipping along the edge of the ski.

My new Kendo's are chipping really bad, so I wanted to see if this is common, or maybe a bad batch.

 

thanks,

Alex

post #2 of 21

The paint on the edge of my Kendos has chipped quite a bit. It primarily comes from me banging them together or people running over them while standing in the lift line. i don't think its a big deal. After all the top sheet is titanium, which is pretty durable.  A buddy told me to stop complaining.  If my skis weren't a little beat up, I wasn't skiing hard enough.

post #3 of 21

If you are chipping the titanal (not titanium) you should probably be examining technique.

post #4 of 21

We rented the kendo in our shop, at a busy ski resort last year. In all of my years, I have never seen a top skin get so beat up, We had to shave down and smooth out the razor sharp shards of metal protruding from the top skin. I have a personal pair that is still in great shape. Do you ski with your skis super close together ( like a hard core bump skier)? But ya, that top skin is crazy.

post #5 of 21

Would it be an idea to run a file along all the topsheet edges before skiing?  This would introduce a slight bevel to the topsheet edge and (hopefully) prevent it being caught by the opposite base edge?  Thinking of doing that to my GF's Kenjas before she skis them.

post #6 of 21

All skis get beat up, not a big deal.

post #7 of 21

Agreed.  But then again I have a file and I don't mind using it.  If 20 mins work to take a slight bevel off the top edge is going to help then why not?

 

It might also help to prevent the grief I'll cop about how the topsheet is chipping away on her brand new boards on the very first day.

post #8 of 21

this could be the issue. check boot alignment, cant, fit, footbeds. If the boots are wrong, it can cause the skis to track in and ride together. you may benefit from lessons until you can ski with your skis apart.

that's a pretty standard construction, aluminum with fiberglass on the top layer.
 

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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post

If you are chipping the titanal (not titanium) you should probably be examining technique.



 

post #9 of 21

There's a whole thread over on the Ski Diva forums about the Kendo's sibling ski, the Kenja, having this exact top sheet problem too....

http://www.theskidiva.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13529

post #10 of 21

Sounds like a lot of "i don't want to get my tools dirty". Get them dirty.

post #11 of 21
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Originally Posted by shima View Post

There's a whole thread over on the Ski Diva forums about the Kendo's sibling ski, the Kenja, having this exact top sheet problem too....

http://www.theskidiva.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13529



I was just about to post this ... it does sound like there is something extra going on here.

post #12 of 21

Yup!  Sounds like that file is going to come in handy.  Topsheet chips are one thing, but metal shards are just nasty.

 

Are the Kenja/Aura topsheets more susceptible to chips and gouges than the Kendo/Mantra?  My friend skis a Kendo, and I've taken a couple of runs on a well-used Kendo demo ski, and I don't recall the topsheet gouging like that.  Small nicks to the metal edges (especially the tips) yes, but not the topsheet.  Volkl must be happy with the product, this being the second year for the Kenja, so you have to wonder.  Maybe that's the reason the Mantra/Kendo graphics have had that 'distressed' look over the last few years.  I always thought incorporating scratches in the topsheet design that was a clever idea.

post #13 of 21

The guy who sold me the Kendo also talked about doing a fill job...

Mine are ok...but I just bought them!biggrin.gif

post #14 of 21

I would expect a competent ski manufacturer to do a basic bevel to their topsheet edges to help reduce this. Especially with the prices Volkl charges for an a pretty unremarkable free ski line.

post #15 of 21

HI,

 

Yes, I have the same problem with my Mantras. Of course, I ski mostly bumps, but still, I have never owned a pair

of skis that suffered so much damage on top. In my opinion, this is a bad design for a ski. Also cheap, since the

(whopping 2 color) graphics are silk screened onto the top layer of metal. I have 30+ other pairs of skis,

some of which have been in use for 10-20 seasons that are in much better shape than the Mantras.

 

Having metal to protect the top edges of a ski is stupid. Of course the edges on the bottom are going to bang into

the top edges on occasion. Having metal there causes lots of damage to the bottom edges as well. It's

amazing how much repair work I've had to do on the bottom edges of these skis which are only used when

there is excellent cover. Luckily I got these for a really cheap price. It's a shame, since they

are an excellent performing ski. A BIG disappointment from Volkl.

 

I regularly file the TOP edges of my Mantras to get rid of the razor sharp shavings - not fun to get stabbed

or shred your gloves. After about 45 days, the tips of the Mantras are no longer round due to all the

filing I've had to do on the tops.

 

And I disagree about it being a technique issue. Unless of course you are such a wimpy skier and

just slowly putter down groomers all day long with a wide stance.

 

A White Raven

 

P.S. Please let is snow more so I have the chance to further destroy the tops of my Mantras . . .

post #16 of 21
Thread Starter 

Folks,

Sorry this took so long.  I wanted to post some pics of what I was referring when I started this thread.

 

This is more a cosmetic issue.  And really isn't a big deal.  I just wanted to see if anyone else was having the same issue.

 

thanks for all your replies.

 

Alex

 

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post #17 of 21

Yea, mine look about 10 times worse than that.  Its just the paint/screen print graphics.  The edges do take a beating.  I don't really worry about it.  For me, skis are a tool.  Before I wear them out, I will see something I like better and move on.  

post #18 of 21

I fail to see anything worth mentioning in that picture. That's not even what I would consider noteworthy.

post #19 of 21

I will try to put some "Top Sheet Ski & Snowboard Skuff Saver Tape". I think its the same stuff that was put on the hood of my car...

http://www.tognar.com/top-sheet-skuff-saver-tape-sold-per-foot/

 

post #20 of 21
I think its a Volkl thing. My sons Gotama top sheet edges chipped up really fast. Its not a technique issue, just normal skiing. I think Volkl does this purposly so that it makes you look more hardcore biggrin.gif. We just filed the top sheet edges so there are no burrs.
post #21 of 21

The Kendos definitely have a bit of a chipping issue on the top edges.  Mine have a few and look worse than yours.  Don't listen to people saying it's your technique - it's not.  But really, your skis are tools so it's not a big deal.  The only top sheets I'd really be scared about damaging are ski logik because they're so beautiful.

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