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post #1 of 6
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Hi looking for some opinions,

 

I currently ski a 178 rossi sc97 with a BD prime boot in a duke

185-190lbs, 5"-11"

Intermediate to advanced

Ski in VT, MRG, Smuggs, Stowe... 70% resort - 30% day touring

Typically ski in the trees traversing through the groomers on my way down, I wouldn't say I ski difficult trees or easy, I ski cautiously in difficult, fast in easy - i am not looking to win awards.

 

Looking to get into rocker/camber setup, I like the rossi but sometimes I feel limited in the trees, getting hooked up on the tips and I have a hard time in 6+ inches of new snow of but that could be because I am a bit of a lazy skier.

 

Did I mention that I am not a hard charger and a bit lazy at times? the rossi I have seem like about the right amount of flex, but I have never tried a softer ski. I was looking at the BD Verdict but I think the "lazy" part in me wouldn't work for that ski.

 

looking for something a bit playful, maneuvers well in the trees but can still handle the groomers and higher speeds at times, oh yea - and forgiving.

 

Here is what I have narrowed it down to:

- Coomback, good for touring but not so sure about the cap construction and the vt granite, plus I plan on getting a tour specific setup down the road, ie. Dynafit

- Bonafide

- k2 hardside

- Sir Frances Bacon

- g3 infidel

- k2 SideStash

- BD Verdict

- BD Amp

 

Also I was planning on going with 180cm but then was thinking of sizing down 174cm for quicker turns in the trees.(could I even size down at my weight/height) would I sacrifice much with sizing down? stability at higher speeds, flotation in the 2-3 12"+ dumps per year.....

 

Am real close to pulling the trigger on the Bonafide, with all the great reviews who wouldn't by it? just thought I would get a few opinions see if I am thinking straight.

 

Thanks for your input!

post #2 of 6
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Originally Posted by vt12 View Post

Hi looking for some opinions,

 

Did I mention that I am not a hard charger and a bit lazy at times? the rossi I have seem like about the right amount of flex, but I have never tried a softer ski. I was looking at the BD Verdict but I think the "lazy" part in me wouldn't work for that ski.

 

looking for something a bit playful, maneuvers well in the trees but can still handle the groomers and higher speeds at times, oh yea - and forgiving.

 

Am real close to pulling the trigger on the Bonafide, with all the great reviews who wouldn't by it?

 

Thanks for your input!


The Blizzard Bonafide is a great ski, there is a reason for the hype... but I think there might be some better options out there for you. The blizzard isn't hard to ski, but the metal layers make pretty solid, sure it's nimble and playful in a sort of precise way... but your 'lazy' description has me thinking you might prefer some other skis in this catagory. It sounds to me like you might love the Rossi S3.

 

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The Blizzard Bonafide is a great ski, there is a reason for the hype... but I think there might be some better options out there for you. The blizzard isn't hard to ski, but the metal layers make pretty solid, sure it's nimble and playful in a sort of precise way... but your 'lazy' description has me thinking you might prefer some other skis in this catagory. It sounds to me like you might love the Rossi S3.

 



My thoughts exactly, Whiteroom.  I've been trying all sorts of models this year and I really liked the S3 as a sidecountry-type ski.  I have a pair coming, as a matter of fact.  It's just an easy ski that handles a whole lot of conditions pretty effortlessly.

 

It would be interesting to somehow compare weights between the Bonafide and the S3.  My impression was that the S3 was lighter, but both had demo bindings on them so it's hard to say.

 

I found this comparison of your existing S97 to the S3 on backcountry.com.  It might be helpful:

 

 

great all round ski, some possible improvements

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January 18, 2011

Great ski, no complaints with the quality but let's face it... ROCKERS ROCK. I loved these skis till I tried the rossi S3's which are rockered twin tips. I have 186 s97's and I demo'd 189 S3s' the difference was incredible. These skis are super fast but not as quick at turning as the S3. I loved my s97's until I took a ride on the s3's. every movement is quicker and easier on the s3's due to the lesser surface area on the ground. s97's were great skis, but now primitive.

 

post #4 of 6

For Sidecountry and backcountry in 3D snow, I think you'd love the Praxis BC. Sweet ski, light, strong, well built and has a skin clip built into the back end. My son has a pair and rips the crap out of trees all the time. He's 5'7" and 140-150lbs.

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For Sidecountry and backcountry in 3D snow, I think you'd love the Praxis BC. Sweet ski, light, strong, well built and has a skin clip built into the back end. My son has a pair and rips the crap out of trees all the time. He's 5'7" and 140-150lbs.



Agree, the Praxis BC seems like it would totally fit the bill. Modern but not on the fringe in any way. Skis a wide range of snow super well (arguably it'd be a fine daily drive out west - and some use it that way). Friendly and light enough a schlub like yours truly can tour and ski it comfortably. Likewise my spouse - who is not schlubby in any way. Capable and well built enough that Tabke can get to a FWT podium on a couple year old pair (after throwing giant air). It definitely stands out among most of the skis listed (can't compare to all of them though).

 

Note: I have a strong Praxis bias. As a counterpoint, my spouse does not - and she tours on the BC as well. After looking hard at what is out there, one of my kids - who also has no particular Praxis bias - is going to get the soon to be released Praxis WooTest for CO touring. I mention this only to indicate that Keith seems to be killing the combo of design and build in this space. Given the overall picture, the OP is probably better served by the BC though.

 

A decent amount of discussion of the BC can be found at TGR. Try code EPIC ( or fan up on Facebook and use code FACEBOOK ) for 10% off the listed site price -- makes the ski a super value.

post #6 of 6

The BC is intrigueing but for osme reason there seems to be huge difference in edge grip between 106 and 98mm skis.

Bonafide is too stiff

K2 hardside is again to stiff not really float for East coast trees.

 

If you can afford it get a 178cm DPS wailer 99 with hybrid construction mount it with Dukes

 

if your looking for cheaper options go with

 

Rossi Scimitar

Rossi S3

Blizzard "the one"

Volkl Bridge

 

 

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