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New Shell vs. Old Shell

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Thread Starter 

This may be a dumb question, but have race shells really been advanced that much in the past 5 to 10 years?  What I am getting at is could a person purchase a race boot that was produced in let's say 2005, buy and insert a good liner like a zip fit, and have a competent if not good race boot for considerably less money than a brand new model ski boot would cost?  Or, have shell advances been such that it would put a racer (master's and I suck lol) at a disadvantage?

post #2 of 7

the stance has changed a lot (more upright) but the basics of 4 buckles and a power strap are still the same

post #3 of 7
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Thank you for the reply.  I have struggled with finding boots that are tight enough but don't crush my feet as I am in between a 26.5 and 27.0 shell.  And before I get flamed, I know to go to a bootfitter, but not everyone has that opportunity in their area.  I have a great ski shop I patronize but while the people there are great, they are "shop guys" as opposed to bootfitters.  Also, the limited shops in my area don't carry a lot of brands or models of boots and certainly not race boots.  So I basically "try" (purchase) a boot and hope it works, and if it doesn't, I "try" another.  Extremely inefficient but that is my reality.  I'm not complaining, only explaining.  I see how people get treated poorly in this forum sometimes and I'm trying to avoid that.  I ultimately either need a very small 27.0 shell or a bigger 26.5 shell in a 98mm last.  

post #4 of 7

HZ,  You can certainly save money purchasing a left over, couple year old model boot without any sacrifice in performance or likely, fit.   I even doubt the necessity of purchasing an after market liner.  It really comes down to the shape of your foot and how it fits into the shape of the boot.  Different brands use different lasts to mold their shell around and finding one that is shaped most like your foot is the key!  Note also that as you down size and search for that super snug but comfortable fit, it is many times necessary to punch or grind here and there to get the ultimate fit and this may require a visit to a good boot fitter for the final tweaking.  Plan a ski trip to a major resort sometime and make plans to visit the local expert!

 

Good luck!

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Thanks again for the reply.  Yes, that is what I was getting at, purchasing older model race boots (for significantly less money) but was trying not to insult anyone.  The funny thing is that while I realize boots pack out, you still have to be able to wear them long enough for them to pack out.  I currently ski in a pair of Head Raptors in a 27.0 shell, and they have packed out and now they feel big.  And for what it's worth, I know they get glowing reviews, but the Raptors just feel like two heavy blocks of plastic on my feet.  The new Lange's sound very promising, and I got to try on a size 27.5 in the local REI (lol), but they were very big.  As offensive as this is going to sound, I it isn't meant that way, I am going to probably end up ordering a few older models of race boots online and trying them out.  I do want everyone to know that in the past two years I have bought four pairs of boots from my local shops.  Are there any older models that people on here have found to be a good boot regardless of the year they were sold?

post #6 of 7
Thread Starter 

Thanks again for the reply.  Yes, that is what I was getting at, purchasing older model race boots (for significantly less money) but was trying not to insult anyone.  The funny thing is that while I realize boots pack out, you still have to be able to wear them long enough for them to pack out.  I currently ski in a pair of Head Raptors in a 27.0 shell, and they have packed out and now they feel big.  And for what it's worth, I know they get glowing reviews, but the Raptors just feel like two heavy blocks of plastic on my feet.  The new Lange's sound very promising, and I got to try on a size 27.5 in the local REI (lol), but they were very big.  As offensive as this is going to sound, I it isn't meant that way, I am going to probably end up ordering a few older models of race boots online and trying them out.  I do want everyone to know that in the past two years I have bought four pairs of boots from my local shops.  Are there any older models that people on here have found to be a good boot regardless of the year they were sold?

post #7 of 7
Thread Starter 

Thanks again for the reply.  Yes, that is what I was getting at, purchasing older model race boots (for significantly less money) but was trying not to insult anyone.  The funny thing is that while I realize boots pack out, you still have to be able to wear them long enough for them to pack out.  I currently ski in a pair of Head Raptors in a 27.0 shell, and they have packed out and now they feel big.  And for what it's worth, I know they get glowing reviews, but the Raptors just feel like two heavy blocks of plastic on my feet.  The new Lange's sound very promising, and I got to try on a size 27.5 in the local REI (lol), but they were very big.  As offensive as this is going to sound, I it isn't meant that way, I am going to probably end up ordering a few older models of race boots online and trying them out.  I do want everyone to know that in the past two years I have bought four pairs of boots from my local shops.  Are there any older models that people on here have found to be a good boot regardless of the year they were sold?

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