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Two quick wax questions...

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

First, I don't know if I'm getting good enough coverage with spreading.  I use enough wax, and some of it forms a nice smooth uniform cover of the base, but others form these streaks.  See photo below...  Do I need the ENTIRE base to have that perfect, smooth coat with the hot wax?

 

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Second question is... is the correct order for brushing: brass, horsehair, nylon..... OR is it brass, nylon, horsehair.

 

 

To that end, does too much brass brushing basically take out all the wax?

post #2 of 9
You need to heat the wax more, looks like you're moving to quickly to avoid burning the bases and not melting the wax enough. Slow down, bases are hard to burn unless you leave the iron in one spot. There should be around 2" of molten wax behind the iron.

When it comes to brushes, I use a brass, nylon then horse hair for polishing. The only problem I see with too much brass brushing is pulling up hairs, especially if you use too much pressure. The point to brushing is to free up the base texture.
post #3 of 9

Nylon vs. brass as first brush depends on your nylon brush. I use a stiff nylon first then rescrape, then stiff brass, then soft brass, then horsehair, then polishing synthetic. From the pictures it looks like you are too cool plus possibly too much wax. The wax that is piled up on other wax is not doing anything for you, it is just the wax touching the base that matters. I like more like a 4-6'' liquid trail.

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Originally Posted by vsirin View Post

 too cool plus possibly too much wax.

 

 

Yup.  icon14.gif

post #5 of 9
Thread Starter 

Thanks so much guys;

 

I cranked up my crappy Wintersteiger Iron to 160 (burnable to bases) and made a smooth molten layer.

post #6 of 9

What wax are you using that you need an iron that hot?   

 

 

Warm waxes were running /great/ this weekend, in south central PA anyway.

post #7 of 9
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Originally Posted by cantunamunch View Post

What wax are you using that you need an iron that hot?   

 

 

Warm waxes were running /great/ this weekend, in south central PA anyway.



I use racewax all-temp (hard as rock) as base-layer, and racewax warm-temp hydrocarbon.

 

My iron is a piece of crap.

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Originally Posted by Vitamin Ski View Post


I use racewax all-temp (hard as rock) as base-layer, and racewax warm-temp hydrocarbon.



 

 

My suggestion here is  to maximize the potential of any iron:   warm and condition the bases with a hot scrape of a softer wax before you add the hard stuff .    

 

Try this experiment: have one ski be cold and one ski be just-hot scraped.    Drip a hard wax onto both ski so that the hard wax makes little beady droplets.    I fully expect* that on the cold ski the  hard wax  will bead up more and wet out the base less.

 

 

*I haven't used racewax per se.

post #9 of 9
Your problem isn't that you need more heat, it's that your not letting the iron melt the wax. Slow down and get a nice trail of molten wax.
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