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Schlopy/Travolta

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This place is a gold mine (when it is not a violent shower scene from Oz).  Reading in the articles section "Images and Concepts of Skiing by Sean Warman."  He mentions a couple of drills whose names are not familiar to me (I might know them as some other name).

 

Can someone describe for me what "Schlopy/Travolta Drill" and "Flamingo Drill" are?

 

Thanks.

 

(Maybe there are film clips I am missing.  Work computer doesn't let me look at movies. 

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Originally Posted by molesaver View Post

Can someone describe for me what "Schlopy/Travolta Drill" are?

 


Search for Hesiman drill. I assume Flamingo is skiing with the inside ski up in the air. Possibly tip on the snow.

 

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The Flamingo drill as I understand it is skiing with the inside ski lifted and the outside edge of the tip on the snow. I've also heard them referred to as tracer turns.

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The Schlopy drill is done without poles and the outside hand on the hip with the inside hand reaching down the hill through transition.  The hand position is then changed in the fall line for the next transition.  The purpose of the drill is to train counter.

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The Schlopy drill is done without poles and the outside hand on the hip with the inside hand reaching down the hill through transition.  The hand position is then changed in the fall line for the next transition.  The purpose of the drill is to train counter.


That description might be the hokey drill or the pokey drill, but the "Schlopy Drill" involves the downhill hand reaching down to touch the boots with the inside arm extended, up high and forward. The intent is more to develop pressure on the outside ski by having some serious angulation necessary to reach down to the side to touch the boots/boot tops.

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The Schlopy drill was first introduced to me by AJ Kitt (Former World Cup Downhiller), who probably learned it from Eric Schlopy himself.  There is no hand on boots in this drill & is much closer to Buds description.  The "Travolta" moniker was added later, as the position reminded people of John Travoltas dance stance in "Saturday Night Fever"

 

Here is a video of my attempt at some "Schlopy's" from last season.  They are mostly some hands on knees railers, with some Scholpy's thrown in.

 

 

Hope that helps,

JF

post #7 of 15

Nicely done JF!

 

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The Schlopy is pretty similar to the Austrian Teapot. The outside hand encourages the pelvis to move inside for angulation, the inside is held forward along the length of the inside ski to promote a strong inside half position. Doug Perini, PSIA alpine team member and director of the Breck ski & ride school, used this briefly in a clinic last season. He said it was more effective if you held the hand positions through the transition into the fall line.
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The Schlopy drill was first introduced to me by AJ Kitt (Former World Cup Downhiller), who probably learned it from Eric Schlopy himself.  There is no hand on boots in this drill & is much closer to Buds description.  The "Travolta" moniker was added later, as the position reminded people of John Travoltas dance stance in "Saturday Night Fever"

 

Here is a video of my attempt at some "Schlopy's" from last season.  They are mostly some hands on knees railers, with some Scholpy's thrown in.

 

 

Hope that helps,

JF



Maybe you call it that, but this is what every coach and athlete I've ever worked with know it as:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE8ecmFvqbs

 

post #10 of 15

That could be Georgert?  It's like the grapevine, as the story gets farther from the source the story changes.  The Schlopy drill I am familiar with and have used in our Western team training has been as JF demonstrated in his video.  It looks like your version has a slightly different purpose than ours, but nothing wrong with that!

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There were a bunch of racers training at Cannon NH when we were there a couple of weeks ago, and they were doing a drill that looked a lot like 4ster's version,  (And other drills, too, over the course of the day.)  I was impressed by their ability to carve cleanly on ice.  I know that is commonplace for racers, but this was the first time I had seen it in person on a surface this icy.

post #12 of 15

This is the Travolta?

 

SaturdayNightFever_300x298.jpg

 

 

Probably not this one. Though it's showing short leg/long leg.

 

Saturday Night Fever - John Travolta

 

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Excellent video and demo.  Thanks for making this video from behind - it's much more useful that way for students.

A quick question for you 4ster, do you pull your inside ski back to minimize tip lead as you do this?

 

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Originally Posted by 4ster View Post

The Schlopy drill was first introduced to me by AJ Kitt (Former World Cup Downhiller), who probably learned it from Eric Schlopy himself.  There is no hand on boots in this drill & is much closer to Buds description.  The "Travolta" moniker was added later, as the position reminded people of John Travoltas dance stance in "Saturday Night Fever"

 

Here is a video of my attempt at some "Schlopy's" from last season.  They are mostly some hands on knees railers, with some Scholpy's thrown in.

 

 

Hope that helps,

JF



 

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Originally Posted by mdf View Post
There were a bunch of racers training at Cannon NH when we were there a couple of weeks ago, and they were doing a drill that looked a lot like 4ster's version,  (And other drills, too, over the course of the day.)  I was impressed by their ability to carve cleanly on ice.  I know that is commonplace for racers, but this was the first time I had seen it in person on a surface this icy.


I ski there every weekend.... those kids rip.  In SWARMS.  They come down the hill fast, carving on ice, on bumps, through crowds, in the gates.  They do lots of drills like this one, and those drills sure help them ski. 

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A quick question for you 4ster, do you pull your inside ski back to minimize tip lead as you do this?


That is the intention.  The Schlopy's are designed to help the student to become more aware of hip angulation, leveling the shoulders & countering.

 

The intention of the other turns in the video are to show how rolling the foot & knee to the little toe edge of the new inside ski is the initial impetus into the new turn.  The hands on the inside knee is used to exaggerate that move along with holding the foot back.  Pardon the excessively wide stance, as it is there to show leg independence.

 

Thanks,

JF

 

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