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Mammoth Jan 28- Feb 4th. Any advice??

post #1 of 21
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Hello all, I will be traveling with my ski club to Mammoth on Jan 28th for a week of skiing.  I know snow has been light as of late (just about everywhere) and they are not 100% open yet, so what can I expect?  What kind of terrain can I expect to be open with the limited snow? 

 

As I was planning two western trips this year, I snuck a pair of Rossi E98's into my quiver but with the marginal coverage, and if a big dump doesn't miracuously appear, should I still take those or should I take my more eastern oriented Volkl AC30's?  With airline baggage fees, only one pair will make the this trip with me.

 

Any advice or strategies to help me enjoy Mammoth would be appreciated!  Also, if any of you bums will be there that week, let me know and hopefully we can hook up for some runs.

 

Rick G

post #2 of 21

couple of things, borrow a 2 ski bag, you are allowed to take 2 pair and they are certainly under 50 pounds: take 2 pairs, don't take just one.

 

I say this all the time, a ski trip isn't just about the skiing.  Mammouth has huge snow making reserves and you can't know what the conditions or snow will be like that far out.  I went all the way to Chile to ski on shit and loved every minute of it.  (well except the food poisoning)

post #3 of 21

Finn has the right attitude about a ski trip, conditions, etc, but if you "baby" your equipment , Mammoth without a lot of snow can be very "boney" up top.

 

I'm no Mammoth expert, but have skied there a few different times when I used to go to the west coast. My expereince was that I believe from mid mountian up they need to have at least 100 in. of snow to cover most of the rocks.

 

I typically ski at Vail on trips west, and by comparison Vail is very "grassy" underneath the snow and Mammoth by contrast very rocky.

 

It can snow like hell there and hopefully that will take place before and during your trip at the end of the month. FootLoose Ski Shop in the town of Mammoth is a great ski shop with superb boot fitting (I saw on an earlier post you just got new boots). The guy that owns FootLoose , Corty Lawerence is considered one of the best boots guys in the industry and his staff is very knowledgeable.

 

Anyway, I had my footbeds made there got the Korks , that a lot of people think lock the ankle on the wrong foot I guess.

 

Have fun

post #4 of 21

Go have a beer. Watch a team from Michigan beat whatever team from Ohio you support, and ask this question again in a couple weeks. beercheer.gif

 

Seriously though, it is too early to be stressing about this too much. I understand and applaud your enthusiasm, but it is going to snow here eventually. And when it does, hopefully it will dump hard. You don't need to make this call until the night before your departure. Plus you can always rent if mother nature decides to toss us a bone while you're here.

post #5 of 21

Amen!  one storm can be a game changer. Just look at JH.  You bail on the trip and it will puke...  Nothing better to be on a dry trip and you get dumped on. AND once you make a decision, please don't whine about it and ask if the skiing will be good. icon14.gif

post #6 of 21

It's an incredibly beautiful part of the eastern high Sierra--enjoy that AND the fact that the pattern seems to be changing out here later this week!! We actually postponed our Mammoth trip from Jan 21-27 to early Feb for a couple reasons, one being the lack of snow. That being said, Mammoth makes an incredible amount of snow--just check out their webcams. And yes, it IS rocky. And rugged. And breathtaking.

 

I have a feeling conditions will turn soon. If they don't, you won't be far from Yosemite since the passes from that side of the Sierra are still open--go see Yosemite without the crowds.

 

I do hope for everyone's sake, including yours, of course, that it starts to dump and keeps at it! Keep us posted on your trip. We'll be right behind you!

post #7 of 21
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all the replies so far.  I guess I am jumping the gun a little bit about which skis to take and I do plan on only taking one pair.  Though I do own a nice double bag on wheel.  Taking a 2nd pair would almost surely require me checking a 3rd bag as I use the dbl ski bag for about 1/2 my clothes, the other clothes and boots go into a wheeled boot/gear bag.  The airlines have really taken the fun out of traveling.

 

So I guess I will just pray for some snow and make my ski decision a day or two prior to departure based on the current conditions and forecast for the week.

 

Assuming conditions remain as they are, anyone have an opinion if I would be better off with my new Ross 98's or my tried and true AC30's?

 

Rick G

 

 

post #8 of 21

Rick, don't decide about ski now., wait literally until the day before and then assess what's going on; my guess is snow will be good by then and it's a no brainer for the 98 which I would prabably be using now anyway! biggrin.gif

post #9 of 21

I'm a classic SoCal commuter to Mammoth, have gotten about 20 days so far this year and just spend Xmas-NYE up there. Things aren't looking great, it's rocky, there are definitely all sorts of stuff mid-trail that will tear apart your skis if you arent careful. Last significant snowfall was on November 20th. It's the driest Mammoth has been since the 1800's. Also, there a places on the mountain that are extremely tough to deal with crowds due to the fact that it is the only run open to get people from Point A to Point B, most notably getting off of Chair 4 (Rollercoaster) and trying to return to South Park or Canyon lodge. Gapers, instructors who take their groups completely laterally across the hill in a huge line, etc. I seriously felt like if I didn't get off the hill that I was going to hit someone through no fault of my own while skiing in control. Mammoth does have snowmaking reserves however they have begun to deplete , go look at the snowmaking lake by McCoy if you need further evidence. Local weather forecasts (www.mammothweather.com) have indicated that the pattern appears to be changing sometime in the next two weeks, however, no indications have been given as to what may come of it for certain. Personally during that time, I booked a trip to Japan before the season began so I will finally be able to find some sanity since they actually have had a great year so far. On a positive note, Mammoth CEO Rusty Gregory wrote an email to employees/passholders reassuring that Mammoth will continue to make the customers experiences as great as it can be given conditions. You can read the letter here: http://forums.mammothmountain.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=12472

 

Mammoth is still an amazing mountain regardless of the conditions and the scenery around the town itself is absolutely breathtaking as well, not many other places in the country can do what they do year in and year out. Enjoy your trip and pray for snow

post #10 of 21
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Originally Posted by rickg View Post

Assuming conditions remain as they are, anyone have an opinion if I would be better off with my new Ross 98's or my tried and true AC30's?

 

Rick G

 

 



Neither. Rent skis and pay the damage waiver. Better to rip the crap out of someone else's skis than your own.

post #11 of 21

I skied Mammoth a lot a long time ago.  It was a wide open ,fast skiing, rippers hill.  The entire top ridge is above tree line and the steep, unobstructed save for a few rock outcroppings, terrain is conducive to high speeds and big arcing turns.  I saw a review of the E98's that said they were very stable at speed so they seem like a good choice.  I will add that every time I skied Mammoth there was a huge snowpack so there are likely to be a lot more of those rock outcroppings than I remember.  Great mountain; I hope to get back there someday.

post #12 of 21

Any recommendations for reasonable lodging (clean, well run, not outrageously priced) in the area?  If not, what is the best place to stay and then drive?  Any deals available on lifts, lodging. etc.?

post #13 of 21
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Sinecure View Post



Neither. Rent skis and pay the damage waiver. Better to rip the crap out of someone else's skis than your own.



Now, why didn't I think of that!  LOL

 

Rick G

 

post #14 of 21

Ship your skis in a box by UPS or Fedex.   Cheaper than the airline and probably safer or just rent for the sake of simplicity.

 

Do the snow dance and enjoy what you get.  The area is incredibly beautiful,  and I second the suggestion about going to Yosemite.  Over the top stuff.

 

Great place to ski.  Have fun and give us a trip report.

post #15 of 21

Hopefully the road to Yosemite will be LONG closed by then!!

 

I have been getting emails from Mammoth reservations with some killer deals on lodging. I unfortunately booked our condo prior to these killer deals coming into play. We are staying near Canyon Lodge within walking distance of chair 7 so we can hop the gondola into the village if we want and just head straight to the lift in the am and take lunch in the condo if we want.

 

Here's the website sending out deals: http://www.1888mammoth.com/  We get nicely discounted lift tix thanks to the Air Force so sorry, can't help you there!

post #16 of 21

Rickg,theirs no way you can travel half way across the country  and leave your new rossi 98's in the garage,are you kidding me?The top of mammoth is 11,000 and one good storm and their will be plenty of snow,mammoth is also windy and that helps to keep the temps down and the snow in good shape and those 98's will love every other turn when you sample the famous pockets of MAMMOTH WIND BLOWN!! of course if it's fresh snow your 98's will cover that too! Ski on.

post #17 of 21

Well if it doesn't snow much before your trip here's what you can expect in terms of terrain. One run off the top best avoided later in the day due to ice, exposed rock and skiers/boarders out of their depth. There are a handful of groomed black runs open, some blues and most of the beginner terrain. For 75% of skiers there is enough to keep them interested. They haven't been able to make snow consistently over the last week or so because of warm temps and some trails are getting exposed areas of dirt/rock. There is no off-piste skiing at all. Parks are in good condition though. As others have said one big storm can change things here. It was busy during the holidays but will be much quieter when you are here so crowds shouldn't be too bad. Best skiing has been from 08.30 for a couple of hours.

 

If it hasn't snowed before your visit pack some swimwear and check out the natural hotsprings and if you have ice skates bring those as the ice skating is phenominal at the moment!

 

Good luck!

post #18 of 21

I got a big pair of skis last year and was worried and wondering how they would handle on grommers and moguls.  I was pleasantly surprised.  They worked just fine or even better in the moguls.  I'm heading to SLC tomorrow and will be bringing my older pair.  Personally, i would never consider schleping two pairs of skis traveling by air unless I was going for an extended stay.  Both of them work fine in any conditions.  But with typical coverage, I'll be using my 98's from now on. (but it's not typical yet)

post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by Kiwiski Andrew View Post

If it hasn't snowed before your visit pack some swimwear and check out the natural hotsprings and if you have ice skates bring those as the ice skating is phenominal at the moment!

 

Good luck!



/\/\ This. Except swimwear is decidedly optional in the natural hotsprings. I'd post pics to prove it, but this is Epic, not TGR.

post #20 of 21

For those looking on deals for tix, this arrived via email yesterday: http://www.mammothmountain.com/MountainActivities/Passes/Mid-WinterPass/

 

Pretty sweet deal.

post #21 of 21
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/\/\ This. Except swimwear is decidedly optional in the natural hotsprings. I'd post pics to prove it, but this is Epic, not TGR.

Funny, I just took this yesterday at a local beach (it was 80 degrees here--ack!) This beach is known for scuba diving and err nude sunbathing, apparently. Just steps from Trump International, no less. ROTF.gif
 

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