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K2 Rictor question

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I have read quite a few reviews of the K2 Rictor and Aftershock skis and most reviewers prefer the Aftershocks.

However on Realskiers.com I see that they rate the Rictor as a 1-quiver ski and they don't have much good to say about the Aftershock.

Now I don't know that much about Realskiers.com having just joined today, but from what I read about their ski reviewers I think that they are experts and professionals, whereas I read alot of reviews elsewhere by skiers who admit to being only advanced skiers.

 

So I guess I'm wondering whether the Aftershocks get raves just because they feel better to high level recreational skiers.

 

Presently I'm on 177 Recons, which are OK for All Mountain here in Colorado, but I'd like a ski a little more forgiving in powder and crud while still being good on bumps and groomers.  I may have been a level 9 skier 30 years ago but now probably an 8.  Former instructor, 207's etc, so now I now need something easier to ski but still like a carving ski. 5'9" 175lb, 60y.

 

What say you?  174 Rictors or Aftershock?

 

thanks

Izzenhood

Grand Junction, Colorado

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The Rictor is the direct replacement for the Recon. It is somewhat better in terms of frontside performance and relatively similar in off trail capabilities. OTH, the Aftershock is the direct replacement for the Explorer. It is roughly similar on trail and an incremental improvement over the Rictor in off trail performance. Both models are primarily frontside oriented skis with the soft snow edge going to the slightly wider Aftershock. Neither ski will provide an epiphany in off trail use over the Recon.

 

To get a notable improvement in off trail/softer, deeper snow you will have to raise your sights a bit toward the 95-100mm range. There are several winners in that category with the K2 offering being the Hardside. These ski models will of necessity sacrifice some of the better groomer characteristics of the Rictor/Aftershock.

 

SJ

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The Rictor is going to be like a stiffer slightly more agressive Recon, so I doubt it would be better for pow than what you have.  I liked the Rictor on piste but didn't like it off.

 

I thought the Aftershock was a noodle at my size (6'3" 235ish) but it was fun in the trees -- It was just too soft for my taste on steeper groomers (which I like to ski GS style, fast and aggressive) and I didn't care for it in crud either.

 

At your size though, it could be the ticket to a little more fun in the pow.  

 

But are you married to K2?  I would think that guys like Dawg, Phil or SJ could rattle off a list of skis that would be considerably better than either of those for a former expert skier.

 

 

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Hehe looks like SJ already beat me to it....

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SJ and LTS

 

Thanks for your input on the Rictor.  I have not demo'd it yet but did try a 174 Aftershock yesterday on hardpack and bumps.

I loved the forgiveness and speed on the groomers, but found it difficult to carve except at high speed.  It was skiable in the bumps but not fun.

Definately will not buy Aftershocks.

I agree that I need to try some other brands but demo's are pretty limited in my area.

In a few days I will try the Rictors. I'm currently on 177 Recons, which are good in the bumps and on hardpack, and are fast and forgiving, and much better that my previous skis in powder.

 

Unless I can find a ski markedly better in powder, that is also good on hardpack and bumps, I'll probably stick with the Recons.

 

Thanks again for your advice.

 

 

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I'm a K2 lover and have both the Recons and the Outlaws.  I went demoing yesterday, hoping to find powder skis that could handle groomers as well, and seriously conditions are so FIRM here that at the end of trying 7 different skis, I got back on my Recons and said, "Thank god".  They were the right skis for the day...and the season so far.  We had 3 inches or so of fluff over crunch and the difficulty of getting a really wide ski on edge on the groomers was quite apparent.  I, too, am looking for a ski that ill be better for LAST YEAR'S conditions and trees, but I don't know if I'll find it before I once again GET last year's conditions.  Tried the Sidestash, thinking that I love K2, and it was my least favorite ski in our current conditions.  Don't get me wrong, it was skiable, but tiring.  

 

Would love to find something for deep powder and trees for someone who loves (or used to love) K2's.....

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Thread Starter 

It is hardpacked here at Powderhorn as will, but the skiing is pretty good considering. 5" last night. 31" base.

 

I appreciate your commentary on the various K2's you tested.   What can you tell me about your experience with the Rictor?

 

As I mentioned before I tried the Aftershock and last year I tried the Outlaw and Explorer; all on hardpack.  As mentioned before the Aftershock did not do well trying to hold an edge on hardpack.

Of the Outlaw and Explorer, one of the two really held a nice edge on HP but both skis felt chattery on the flats and were not relaxing skiis. By relaxing I mean that after skiing aggessively, you could not just relax and cruise to recover your wind or legs.  Alternatively, the Aftershock was relaxing, probably because of the slight tip rocker. 

 

After a half day on hardpack with the Aftershock, I jumped back on my Recons and it was a pleasure again.  I didn't get to try the Aftershock in crud or powder but there is no need, as I would not be able to tolerate their performance on hardpack.

 

Thanks again

 

Izzenhood

 

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I am a 64 year old all mountain skier, who after 8 years on Recon 174s, demo'd the Rictors at Beaver Creek during a brief three day period with soft snow and a little powder (4").   I had the best sking of my life,and I  credit the front rocker which made it so easy to begin carved turns and hold on the steeper harder faces.  I didn't notice any difference in moguls, and thought it was really fun.

 

I am also trying to decide whether the Rictor or Aftershock is more suited to me.   We live in the East and my sense is that  skiing the firmer snow here, the Rictor might be preferable.  Any input?

 

SandyMac

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I am a 64 year old all mountain skier, who after 8 years on Recon 174s, demo'd the Rictors at Beaver Creek during a brief three day period with soft snow and a little powder (4").   I had the best sking of my life,and I  credit the front rocker which made it so easy to begin carved turns and hold on the steeper harder faces.  I didn't notice any difference in moguls, and thought it was really fun.

 

I am also trying to decide whether the Rictor or Aftershock is more suited to me.   We live in the East and my sense is that  skiing the firmer snow here, the Rictor might be preferable.  Any input?

 

SandyMac

 

Any input??.................sure, read this......................  I had the best sking of my life.

 

SJ

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Thanks for the discussion. I skied k2  rictors  in 174 cm length as rentals for 4 days last year at Whistler . They performed great.   The snowfall was good but not enough to leave even the groomed slopes in chopped up conditions.   Skier and ski handled crud very well.   I took the skis into some less than ideal conditions and I felt very comfortable.   I am not sure that I skied any ice like conditions but they handled the lower parts of Whistler and Blackcomb pretty well.   I never felt like the skies were going to go flying out from under me in a turn.

 

 

I am going to put in at least  12 days this year.   With the sales that are going on, I decided it was time get my own skis again.  They will pay for themselves in a few seasons. The rental rates in Whistler for performance skis are quite reasonable.   By comparison, the rates in Colorado for similar skis are really annoying.  8 days by $45-$50 equals new skis.

 

  I just purchased a set of 181 CM 2012 k2 rictors on sale.  I got the longer length due to my 6'2" height and 210 lbs weight.   

 

I used to have some K2 threes years ago with some nice Solomon bindings.   Those skis were great on groomed slopes and very light chop..   They did not deal with real crud/chop so well. I remember one trip to Whistler where we got 8" overnight.   The runs were all chopped up by about 10-11.    The k2 threes were work in those conditions.    They flew down smooth groomed trails.   They were ok with the powder until things got chopped up.  My skills at the time may also have  needed work.    I just remember the k2 threes as being less than ideal.   I did take them down some bump runs.

 

My impression of the k2 Rictor is that it is fun in those conditions. 

 

I sort of backed off from the Aftershocks because I have not skied them and reports from various places besides this forum that described them as "Noodles",  more work  etc on the front side.   I wanted to be able to go fast or slow.   I so not remember overpowering the Rictors.   I did not fly down any black diamonds either.

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