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Blizzard Bonafide Skis

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Enough said on these skis so I won't get too verbose. Purchased my Bones 180cm from Phil/Starthaus at a great price and love these skis.

 

One thing that hasn't been mentioned by anyone.

 

These are the fastest skis I have ever owned.  I raced for 23 yrs and have skied and raced SG on some pretty fast boards but there is  something about the Bones that amaze me.

 

My bones will run right out from under me if I let them.  On roads and runouts I can smoke just about anyone.  I have never owned a pair skis that were this fast.

 

I spent some extra time on the bases etc. and use Slidewrights Universal Yellow 90% of the time and the skis really run.

 

Anyone else noticed this characteristic?

post #2 of 13

They can also make a mean greek salad, install your snow tires, help your kids learn long division, recite the Gettysburg Address, cure cancer, and never let you send a late Birthday card. 

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Off topic: So I've had a few days to ski on the Bonafides and while they are a great ski, I would not describe them as the ginsu knive I was expecting. They absolutely rail groomers like a GS ski, like a more nimble version of my Katanas. But they are not as quick turning and playful as many others I've skied. Granted, they are not my big dump happy grin ski, they're my utility knife for mediocre condition days. For me they will fit in nicely as my GoTo ski on days when it snowed 2cm or less. Otherwise I will go with something fatter and more playful like the Wailer112s.

 

My point is, many skiers come to Epic Ski and the leading ski magazines to get advice on "What is the BEST ski?" rather than "What is the the BEST ski for ME?" I would not recommend the Bones to an intermediate looking to improve. Too long a turning radius and too damp and heavy.

 

Note, while I am a very strong skier, I do not have the subtle knowledge that Jim and Phil have to note the distinctions among the gazzilions of skis out there. But over they years I've watched many skis become THE SKI that middle aged guys with money run out and purchase just because it is the #1 rated ski (think Metron B5, Gotama, Mantra, heck even Olin Mark IV Comps back in the day).

 

Final point: There are so many unbeliebably good skis available today. I wished I owned a ski shop and could try/demo them all. The subtlties among the various shapes, sizes and manufacturing techniques are such that you can practically find a ski that is custom designed to your specific needs. So the "What is the Best Ski" concept is particularly dead in these heady days for microbrew ski companies. 

post #4 of 13

Ginsu knife: you need a Kendo for that! 

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I was in Jackson Hole last week for 3 days and on day 2 rented a pair of Bonafides (187s) from Teton Village Sports b/c I thought my Volkl AC50s (177s) were working me too much.  On that day, there was 5' of new and rarely have I had that much fun skiing, largely due to the Bonafides.  Once I figured out how to ski them (took about a half-dozen turns), they were fun and manageable in the trees, blew away crud and chopped up snow without a whimper and, most surprisingly, competed well with the burly Volkls in any hardpacked or icy conditions.  They were surprisingly quick, given the length and weight, and highly confidence inspiring.  The folks at TVS were great and let me rent the skiis for a second day (12" new), even though the holiday demand for such skiis was very high, and I found them equally fun in the powder, especially on the treed and semi-treed runs off the Thunder quad.

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Guess I am the only fast guy on them since you all ignored the question.  So,  Hi and Goodbye to all you slow guys.ski.gif

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Originally Posted by Pete No. Idaho View Post

Guess I am the only fast guy on them since you all ignored the question.  So,  Hi and Goodbye to all you slow guys.ski.gif



They seemed about the same as my Kastles under my feet!  Both were waxed a ton (hot scraped at least 5 times before touching the snow, and getting plenty of wax after that), and both were fast.  Maybe you are getting poor grinds on your other skis?

post #8 of 13

Yes, pretty darn fast bases with good stability and confidence at speed. MInd you, my son, with a broken thumb and skiing on park skis, was still faster the other day. I guess I'm getting old.

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They seemed about the same as my Kastles under my feet!  Both were waxed a ton (hot scraped at least 5 times before touching the snow, and getting plenty of wax after that), and both were fast.  Maybe you are getting poor grinds on your other skis?



 Yep, I spent about 4 days preparing the bases and ironing in repeatedly base wax.  Maybe this is the difference but just am still amazed at how these skis just take off. 

 

post #10 of 13

I bought mine from Phil (Starthaus) who was awesome by the way.  They sent them to me with a nice 1/2 tune and fresh wax.

 

I skied the first time on 12 inches of new snow and was worried I went too short.  They really turned quickly and almost too easily.  They did not see extra fast but the conditions...

 

The second time was on cold, groomed man-made snow (used SVST blue wax) and when carving they seemed to like a much larger turn-shape.  They felt plenty long on the groomers.  There were very few people on the mountain and they were a blast and I didn't want to stop.  And yes, they are fast enough but not anything I noticed compared to my iSupershape Speed's, they just wanted to carve longer turns than the Heads.  I had a pair of Stoekli skis about 10 years ago that had noticeably fast bases so I know what you are talking about, those things just took off, maybe I'll do some more waxing.

 

I was surprised by this ski's Jeykl and Hyde personality and, if we ever get any snow, I'm looking forward to testing their versatility.

 

I demoed the Mantra as I was debating between the two skis and am so glad I got the Blizzards, the Volkl felt "planky" in comparison.

 

 

post #11 of 13
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Originally Posted by Pete No. Idaho View Post



 Yep, I spent about 4 days preparing the bases and ironing in repeatedly base wax.  Maybe this is the difference but just am still amazed at how these skis just take off. 

 



I honestly haven't skied mine enough this year to get a true feeling of how "fast" they are.  Mostly it has all been hardpack around here, and icy bumps.  

 

post #12 of 13
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I honestly haven't skied mine enough this year to get a true feeling of how "fast" they are.  Mostly it has all been hardpack around here, and icy bumps.  

 



Know the conditions,  sure would like to see some powder.

 

post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by Pete No. Idaho View Post



 Yep, I spent about 4 days preparing the bases and ironing in repeatedly base wax.  Maybe this is the difference but just am still amazed at how these skis just take off. 

 


So beyond using this stuff 90% of the time:

 

http://www.slidewright.com/glide-on-warm-yellow-base-prep-and-hot-scrape-wax-1-lb-455-gr_gowrm455.html?cat=14

 

What else did you do to "prep" the bases?

 

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