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post #91 of 112
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Originally Posted by Vitamin Ski View Post

You could have told GarryZ and SkiMangoJazz "tough s**t" when they complained about public "cred" displays.

Actually their complaints were taken in to consideration I believe.  The "cred points" were taken out of public display. Only the poster can see them.

Now, some of us wish there were a thumbs down button. For good reason it was left out. I must say this thread probably would've seen a lot of us had it been an option.

 

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Originally Posted by Vitamin Ski View Post

What I'm mostly responding to are outrageous claims and disjointed rhetoric used by some individuals to justify and explain intricacies of the change.

Is this what you'll say to the IRS when when they send the tax return to file?

 

There's been no change. I don't even think you were on the site when the editing change came in. There have been many changes over the years. That bill has passed and we've moved on.

 


 

 

post #92 of 112

 

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Originally Posted by Vitamin Ski View Post

I have been issued an infraction by Tyler.

 

Make sure you never question the man.



Feel free to question me. I'm not even close to being the most knowledgeable poster on here. However, please don't publicly call out a moderator on their actions in behalf of EpicSki. Repeated offenses can earn you a temporary ban. 

post #93 of 112
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post


Discussing private messages in public is very bad form. I believe it violates the terms of service. At the very least, a low class move. Something I would expect from you.

 

I flagged the post that elicited my PM, and it's gone now, isn't it? You made a horrendously offensive post. I chose to express my disdain privately, rather than publicly. Actually, I wrote a four word post in the thread which stated "You are an idiot.", but I quickly deleted it because it was harsh and probably in violation of an agreement I made when I joined the site. Well I wasn't allowed to delete the post, but I changed it to "...".

 


So it's okay to tell someone to conduct them selves or they are gone' and then call them an idiot.   Got it... rolleyes.gif

 

post #94 of 112

Does anyone know what the different feedbacks are?  

There is feeedback and unique feed back?   what is the difference and is one bad and the other good? 

post #95 of 112
I am not certain, pdiddy.

I think:
unique feedback = the number people that have given you thumbs-up
feedback received = the total thumb count
Feedback = a meaningless number mysteriously derived from the previous two
post #96 of 112

At some point your feedback power doubles.  That is, when some veteran members give a thumbs up it counts as two points for the person receiving it instead of one point..

post #97 of 112

LOL, I just noticed that  another forum I post on seems to be trying out the unlimited edit window.  Until recently, edits there were limited to an hour.  It is a forum where the average age is probably 15, skateboarders...  It will be interesting to see how that plays out there among 14 year olds after seeing how it went down here at least twice!

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post #98 of 112
I've been around here since early 2005 and I've never needed to edit posts for more than a couple hours. Sure, I read some old material I posted long ago and see typos, poor grammar, fuzzy writing and would like to 'update' that old text, but it's not a pressing issue for me.

But what if my ideas on skiing tend to change with time? Should I go back and change what I wrote five years ago because I no longer see things that way? What does that do to the original multiple-way conversation?

I don't know about others here but I tend to proof-read what I write before I hit Submit. Even so, sometimes the spell checker fails to underline mucked up words or I miss otherwise nonsensical collections of words (read: Space-outs). Here it's nice to have a while to proof-read the actual post in its new sequentially-relevant home and make corrections/modifications based on other posts that may have jumped in while I was writing.

But after those corrections, modifications and restylings I've no legitimate reason to change the text in that particular post. That final proof-reading is perfectly sufficient for me. I can always amend my statements in a later post if I subsequently think differently - but that's the key here: subsequently! If a post later than mine changes my perspective, my thinking or my position on a subject then is it really legitimate for me to go back and change the writing that reflected my earlier thinking? An endless edit feature might be used to criticize and insult other people, then hide it later to make it seem like the other fellow is making things up when he retaliates. ("Did not!", "Did too!", "Oh yeah? Prove it!" - but now the text is gone...)


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I'm greatly in favor of a one or two hour time limit on post edits! If I really need a change to an old post I can simply re-write the offending post and submit it to a Mod (or Admin) and request a replacement. This also prevents anyone from "changing history" inappropriately because the Mod will likely evaluate what changed and call me on any mischief.

Just because an electronic medium lets us change what we said earlier doesn't mean we should enable that feature when it's inappropriate - and I think a shared discussion forum is just the place for keeping accurate footprints in the sand. Copyright may affect how material is used but putting material up here is effectively placing it in the public domain.

A further idea is that your own writing is contributed to a larger tapestry, intertwined with that of others. Changing your writing long after a thread develops effectively changes that tapestry thus affecting the writing of everyone else. If the entire "Thread" is taken as a 'work of writing' and EpicSki (or any forum provider) is the copyright holder of that Thread (in it's entirety) then I've got to wonder if changing past components of that 'overall work' infringes on the forum provider's Thread Copyright... confused.gif

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post #99 of 112

Well is there anything you'd like to change about that statement before it's too late?

I didn't quote you, so you have the option.

I agree with what you've written, but if you change your mind and edit it, I don't know.

 

Threrefore my official comment will have to wait for 2 hours. Then, I have 2 hours to change my mind, so that's 4 hours before you can be sure. But if you change your mind in 2, then I have to wait another 2 = 4, plus my 2 hour gap is 6 hours to really know where we stand. Even then you could change it again so we're up to 8 hrs.

Maybe we should have a "Posted Now!" button which would mean we've committed to what we just wrote and will not edit or add to it.  

 

I got it, why don't we allow others to edit our posts for a time period? Now, wouldn't that be interesting.

 

post #100 of 112
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

Well is there anything you'd like to change about that statement before it's too late?

I didn't quote you, so you have the option.

I agree with what you've written, but if you change your mind and edit it, I don't know.

 

Threrefore my official comment will have to wait for 2 hours. Then, I have 2 hours to change my mind, so that's 4 hours before you can be sure. But if you change your mind in 2, then I have to wait another 2 = 4, plus my 2 hour gap is 6 hours to really know where we stand. Even then you could change it again so we're up to 8 hrs.

Maybe we should have a "Posted Now!" button which would mean we've committed to what we just wrote and will not edit or add to it.  

 

I got it, why don't we allow others to edit our posts for a time period? Now, wouldn't that be interesting.

 


Haha, you can't change it now..tongue.gif

post #101 of 112

So, I did some asking around at another forum where it appears I can now edit posts with zero edit window where a few months ago I could only edit them within an hour.  Apparently, the edit window is variable depending on forum seniority/number of posts.  After surpassing 4,000 postseek.gif unlimited post editing became enabled. So, that (but much lower than 4K posts?) is another option to consider.  In the past, was it veteran bears that train wreck the threads or typically folks with under 1,000 posts?

post #102 of 112
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

So, I did some asking around at another forum where it appears I can now edit posts with zero edit window where a few months ago I could only edit them within an hour.  Apparently, the edit window is variable depending on forum seniority/number of posts.  After surpassing 4,000 postseek.gif unlimited post editing became enabled. So, that (but much lower than 4K posts?) is another option to consider.  In the past, was it veteran bears that train wreck the threads or typically folks with under 1,000 posts?



I can think of two where the posters were over 1000 posts (in one case a very high post count bear), and the other user was only a couple hundred posts. 

post #103 of 112
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Originally Posted by tylrwnzl View Post



I can think of two where the posters were over 1000 posts (in one case a very high post count bear), and the other user was only a couple hundred posts. 



OK, just to be clear, I'm not talking about instances where someone removes one snarky comment here or there.  I don't think anyone really sees anything wrong with those kind of edits.    I'm talking about instances where someone goes through and changes several posts thus wrecking the whole thread.  I can only think of one instance of a veteran member doing that and they also dropped out or were banned.  So, if two have also done it up around 1K, then maybe 2 or 3 K would be a good floor to unlimited editing?

post #104 of 112

We had one delete a lot of posts through several posts. Even a 5k cutoff wouldn't have prevented. I'm only talking about instances where it's a serial issue. 

post #105 of 112

Was it me? I delete as many posts as I save. I really don't think I've deleted anything that was important or anything that was integral to the thread.

 

Someone messaged me in regards to this topic to say he enjoyed the posts I put up 'for a limited time only'. The posts I would remove in the morning won't get submitted at all if I can't edit them later. 

 

Does that make this a better place or a more boring one? To me it's oppressive, others might find it comforting.

post #106 of 112
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post

Was it me?



no

post #107 of 112
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post

 

Does that make this a better place or a more boring one? To me it's oppressive, others might find it comforting.


Does what? Limited time for editing? Better.

As for your posts, how can we comment since we didn't see them?

It would be nice to have something of a sidebar to make comments that don't derail the thread.

 

post #108 of 112
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post

Was it me? I delete as many posts as I save. I really don't think I've deleted anything that was important or anything that was integral to the thread.

 

Someone messaged me in regards to this topic to say he enjoyed the posts I put up 'for a limited time only'. The posts I would remove in the morning won't get submitted at all if I can't edit them later. 

 

Does that make this a better place or a more boring one? To me it's oppressive, others might find it comforting.

What's the point of that? Don't get the oppression of the two hour window. Please explain.
 

 

post #109 of 112

I have no real opinion on time limits for editing, if I edit something it is more often than not "oops, that should have been of not at" or I don't like the pic I put in there.  However I noticed something today that now every time I see it it seems weird. If someone deletes their entire post text, the post is still there, the text box however just shows "...."  It seems odd to allow editing a post to nothing (during whatever time frame), but leaving the post "frame" in the thread.  "Hey look, Fred posted again but thought better of it."

post #110 of 112

My reason for wanting to edit an old thread: I saw a bunch of 404 errors on my site over the last few days. I tracked them down to a link I posted on a thread about some Gore skiers that got lost.  All the URLs changed when we moved to Wordpress. 

post #111 of 112
Well, just contact a moderator.
post #112 of 112

Harvey, supporters have indefinite edit time, but regular members are 2-hours.  I can set you up for a bit if you just have some limited editing.  Let me know by PM.

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