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topsheet trim on ski tearing off

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

Please see the following pics; my girlfriend's Volant Vertex 71 started doing this recently.  We acquired them from a friend last year in almost-new condition, and had them tuned last year. Used 8x last year and so far 8x this year.  Bases and edges otherwise look good.  She's an intermediate skier, not going over rocks or brush.

 

Suggestions?

 

Thanks

 

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post #2 of 10

Here's the deal.  A ski is basically a polymer-based composite.  The resin that holds the whole thing together is cured during the manufacturing process to a certain level of hardness, but it still remains resilient.  After leaving the factory, the resin continues to cure, very slowly when cold, much faster during summer storage.  That's why you're advised to store skis and cold and dark places.  Light also accelerates the curing process (ever had a dentist use the UV light to cure your filling?). After a few years, it becomes much more brittle, regardless of how much use it had.

 

I'm guessing this ski is at least 5 years old.  The impact that caused this damage might have caused just a nick on a new ski.

 

So far, the damage looks superficial. I would probably dab some marine epoxy and try to glue it together.  It might hold, and your GF may get another season or two out of them.  But if a second issue like this came up, I'd be inclined to toss them.  If a ski is prone to disintegrate under my feet, I don't want to be on it.

 

post #3 of 10
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OK, I tried marine epoxy and we'll see how well it holds.  Thanks for the suggestion. This is actually a strip of trim, most of the topsheet is metal, so I'm no worried about the topsheet or anything else disintegrating,

post #4 of 10
Looks likes the sidewalk trim. Defiantly make sure it's sealed to prevent moisture penetration into the core. Other than that it's just superficial damage.
post #5 of 10

They make Marine fiberglass repair kits that come with color that you can mix to match the existing trim. I used it on a pair of Atomic R11-Beta-Plus that are a kinda of metallic brown. Worked great! 

post #6 of 10

What a dumb, cheap way to make a ski, sorry to say. Volant is all about their steel cap and can't even bother to use a steel top-edge guard. I think it's faulty construction design more than material or adhesive degradation. I'd toss it on that basis alone. Their best skis suck, IMO, so their low end models, yeck.

 

otherwise, yep, got to seal the core. how about a photo that shows the sidewall in that location. now I'm curious.

 

a note: most Volants have a stainless steel cap, the cap wraps around the area you have failing from top sheet to sidewall, thus avoiding delams from edges riding up on the inside of the ski.

post #7 of 10


 

 

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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

 

Volant is all about their steel cap and can't even bother to use a steel top-edge guard.
 

 

 

This is one of the Atomic-built  Volants.     The 'cap' is a cosmetic sheet only on these.    

 

For an 8-year old ski at a Sports Authority price point, they are in decent shape.      Especially if they are not already 'customer-rockered'.

 

Originally Posted by DesiredUsername View Post

OK, I tried marine epoxy and we'll see how well it holds.  Thanks for the suggestion. This is actually a strip of trim, most of the topsheet is metal, so I'm no worried about the topsheet or anything else disintegrating,



Be worried about putting a permanent bend in them.    Just about everyone else has in theirs.


Edited by cantunamunch - 12/31/11 at 2:57pm
post #8 of 10


as per your analysis, the Atomic/Volant is no more prone to bending than any other "normal" ski because it has a traditional sandwich construction, fiberglass layers on foam or wood. As you mention, the steel top sheet is only cosmetic. The real Volant, SS cap, is more expensive now if you can find it.

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This is one of the Atomic-built  Volants.     The 'cap' is a cosmetic sheet only on these.    

 

For an 8-year old ski at a Sports Authority price point, they are in decent shape.      Especially if they are not already 'customer-rockered'.

 

Originally Posted by DesiredUsername View Post

OK, I tried marine epoxy and we'll see how well it holds.  Thanks for the suggestion. This is actually a strip of trim, most of the topsheet is metal, so I'm no worried about the topsheet or anything else disintegrating,



Be worried about putting a permanent bend in them.    Just about everyone else has in theirs.



 

post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 

OK, after trying the marine epoxy, the first time we took them out on the slopes the trim didn't stick.  I took them in to my ski shop for a basic tune; they confirmed it's just cosmetic and since I'd already put on the epoxy over the exposed area that it was already sealed, so we just cut off the loose trim.  They also suggested having this be the R ski so that the epoxied edge wasn't the inside pressured edge.

 

She's happy with these skis for now, basically an intermediate skier working on improving her technique after years of not skiing.   Maybe when we go to the Gathering I can get her to try some newer skis out on the demo days. 

 

Thanks for the input, everyone.

 

post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by DesiredUsername View Post

 

She's happy with these skis for now, basically an intermediate skier working on improving her technique after years of not skiing.   Maybe when we go to the Gathering I can get her to try some newer skis out on the demo days. 



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