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Ski Gear Suggestions Please :), level 6.75 skiier over in California

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

Hi everyone,

 

I recently got back into skiing after a 9 year break from when I did it as a kid.  I used to go 5-6 times a year from about age 5 - 13 and then stopped.  I started again last year and I still got it and its still just as fun!  Now I'm working and I have money, so I'm looking for a one ski quiver.  HOWEVER, I tried researching and the variety of ski's available is overwhelming.  Hopefully this thread will help me narrow down the search.

 

About me:

23 yrs old, 5'11.5", 160lbs

According to this, http://www.aspensnowmass.com/schools/yourlevel/default.cfm, I'd guess I'm a level 6.5 - 7 skiier.

Price for ski: Around 700 or less

 

Anyways, after getting custom fit boots, Claude from skinet sports recommended that I try the Volkl Mantra skis (it was his favorite).  I did some research and it looked like I might be a little too light for it (not too sure)?  I'm interested in the 170cm because I typically enjoy skiing short, however I feel like the 177 is the better choice for me to grow into it.

 

Everything below here is about my skiing preferences, if you don't want to get bored, skip it :).

 

Skiing Style:

I enjoy going really fast and carving but never had time to get better at blacks because my parents think its too dangerous when I was a kid.  I only started blacks last year and it wasn't too bad (depends on how the snow is), but I am pretty confident I can get comfortable at it by the end of this year.  If the snow is packed powder or somewhat icy, I have no problem zooming down at a good and fast pace.  I try the park when I get bored and enjoy getting some air off man-made and natural stuff, this is maybe 10% of my day.

 

Future Goals: GO REALLY FAST, get somewhat good at jumps (i.e. just get massive air, everything else is probably too scary and demands a different ski)

 

Locations: I live in San Diego now, so mostly Big Bear / Snow Summit.  My family is from the Bay Area so I still go to Tahoe once or twice a year.  And last but not least, Mammoth if I am not too lazy to drive 6-7 hours.  Possible 1 snow trip to Park City every year or 2.  Estimate of trips to snow: 4-6 a season

 

Boots: I stopped by http://skinetsports.com/ to get custom fit boots earlier this year and it was a good experience.  Got a pair of Salomon x3 and custom orthotics.  Works really well and I would definitely recommend him to anyone!

 

Possible Problems:

1. I suck at skiing in crud, never experienced it until I went to big bear on the day after it snowed and wasn't fully groomed.  I tell myself its probably the ski but not too sure...

2. I always tended to ski a shorter ski (5-10 cm shorter).  I did so as a kid and even now when I restarted again.  It just felt a lot more natural for me.  My reasoning for this was that I was a skinny asian boy.  For some insight, when I first reached my height, I was only 120lbs.

 

I HOPE that wasn't too long >.<... Thanks for your time and I really appreciate it.  Sorry for the essay.....

post #2 of 14

Your instincts are correct, the Mantra is not the ski for you. 

 

There are a ton of great skis in that high speed frontside category that you will enjoy. You can do a search here and you will get some good info.

 

A start list for you in the 177-180cm range...

 

Blizzard Bonafide

Nordica Enforcer, Helen Bach

Line Prophet 98

Fischer Watea 98

Dynastar 94

Kastle FX94, BMX98

 

You could throw a dart at any of this skis and not come out with a bad one. 

 

 

post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 

Great! I'll take a look at those and continue readddingggggg :).  Preparing and researching to buy stuff is so addictive haha.

post #4 of 14

a level 6.75 ????? 

post #5 of 14
Thread Starter 

ahaha that was just a rough guess? am i not suppose to use decimals.....

post #6 of 14

I have no idea, just never seen decimals used. :)

post #7 of 14

Ummmmm.................given your goals....................

 

Priority #1 = Boots-Check, got that. Good move there.

Priority #2 = Helmet-got this yet?

Priority #3 = Major Medical - got this?

Priority #4 = The skis on Phil's list w/possible exception of the Watea which might be a little soft given your need for speed.

 

Given your current weight/ability, the 170 length might be ok as you might be a little long on aggro and short on technique, but for the long haul the 177-180 range is a better choice.

 

Just funnin' ya about #3................biggrin.gif

 

SJ

post #8 of 14
Thread Starter 

got helmet! :) and a go pro to go with it haha.  health insurance is paid by engineering firm so I'm good to go!  what exactly do you mean by a little long on aggro...? sorry I'm trying to learn the terminology still... it just sounded weird when you joined that phrase to describe the shorter ski combination.

post #9 of 14

Rontruong, do not get a fat ski ! you don't do the park( that's awesome ) get a high 70's or 80 something ski and go out their and kick some ass!! Us old timers are dying for some young bucks like yourself to get on the frontside of the mountain with some narrower ski's and tear it up!!Get yourself a nice gs ski that will be nice and stable for you at high speeds; I for one will be at mammoth alot this year and hope to see you from the safety of my chairlift and will applaud you when i see you at the bottom of the mountain now you are young,,,,,,go out their and tear it up,,,,,you are the future.Good luck.

post #10 of 14
Thread Starter 

From what I understand (searching and reading a bit, http://www.epicski.com/t/81820/the-lost-ski-waist-width-70-79mm-whats-the-point/60), it looks like a little bit wider of a ski helps with stability in crud.  I go to big bear a lot in san bernadino mountains and I swear, that place is crud central if it snowed the day before.  I almost feel like its a waste to go if it snowed the day before.  I mean it does make sense physically, wider ski will require less correction when hitting something hard and weird while a smaller ski will get deflected more.

 

It looks like to me that anything 90+ might be too wide for the typical snow day because of my weight.  So, I think I should be aiming at something around high 70's to 80 mm waist?  Recommendations would be nice and helpful :).  Anyways I'm going to continue reading more about skis and possibly used skis so I can finalize my decision when the season ends and sales come out for me to buy the final pair!

 

Hopefully I am thinking towards the right direction but there must be a reason why Philpug recommended those wider skis... so I'll be digging in on those too.  I'm trying to keep open minded about opinions.  Man skis are so complicated haha :)

post #11 of 14
Thread Starter 

Actually, I feel like I should just man up and buy skis for good conditions and figure out this crud thing with whatever I have haha... so I'll be looking at 70 - 80 mm skis then.  Could anyone give me a few suggestions for me to look up?  I remember I tried Head Peaks 2011 170cm 72 mm waist (guessing) at big bear last year and I really liked them, not sure what everyone thinks about them here though :)

post #12 of 14

First, 6.75 sounds like the next big killer earthquake that we will have in California. wink.gif

 

Dang!  Some situation that you are in.  You got some great insight from Phil in the 90s mm width skis.  Viking has a point about 70s mm width skis.  If you want, you can always split it down the middle by getting an 80 something mm wide set of skis.  If speed is going to be your friend, and you want some width for cruddy snow, this category can be for you.  Here are a few:

  • Salomon Enduro XT 850
  • K2 AMP Aftershock
  • Blizzard 8.7 IQ Max
  • Volkl RTM 84

 

Good luck with your search.

 

Dennis

post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by Denny1969 View Post

First, 6.75 sounds like the next big killer earthquake that we will have in California. wink.gif

 

Dang!  Some situation that you are in.  You got some great insight from Phil in the 90s mm width skis.  Viking has a point about 70s mm width skis.  If you want, you can always split it down the middle by getting an 80 something mm wide set of skis.  If speed is going to be your friend, and you want some width for cruddy snow, this category can be for you.  Here are a few:

  • Salomon Enduro XT 850
  • K2 AMP Aftershock
  • Blizzard 8.7 IQ Max
  • Volkl RTM 84

 

Good luck with your search.

 

Dennis

I second the Enduro xt 850.  great ski. 
 

 

post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by Denny1969 View Post

First, 6.75 sounds like the next big killer earthquake that we will have in California. wink.gif

 

Dang!  Some situation that you are in.  You got some great insight from Phil in the 90s mm width skis.  Viking has a point about 70s mm width skis.  If you want, you can always split it down the middle by getting an 80 something mm wide set of skis.  If speed is going to be your friend, and you want some width for cruddy snow, this category can be for you.  Here are a few:

  • Salomon Enduro XT 850
  • K2 AMP Aftershock
  • Blizzard 8.7 IQ Max
  • Volkl RTM 84

 

Good luck with your search.

 

Dennis




I second the 8.7... since we are sticking with the earthquake theme

 

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