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post #31 of 35

 How are your skis performing?

 

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Originally Posted by TallSkinnyGuy View Post

I have read many times in this forum the opinion that diamond stones should not be used on the bases much if at all once the edge is set. I therefore found it very interesting to watch the recent Toko videos showing Willi Wiltz (renowned ski/snowboard tech) using each diamond stone grit on the base before using it on the edge. He is teaching to freehand the diamond stone on the base to remove the hanging burr, then use it on the side edge, then get the next finer grit of diamond stone and run it down the base edge to get the hanging burr, then use it on the side edge, etc.

 

I am a beginning tuner and have been freehanding an Arkansas stone with medium pressure down the base edge after all filing/stoning the side edge to get rid of the hanging burr. Honestly, I don't have the ability to "feel" everything like I assume more experienced tuners can. Am I actually getting rid of the hanging burr with this method? Should I use the diamond stones as Willi teaches or would that be dangerous for a beginner like myself (due to potentially taking off too much and increasing the base angle)?



 

post #32 of 35

No one I know alternates between the side edge and the base as you have described.


 

I do all base bevels on a pair and the any prgression of stones on each side edge followed by removal of the hanging burr on each base edge after the progression of stones on the side edge.

 

You don''t have to worry about feel. You just need to have the stoen flat against the base edge when removing the hangin burr.

 

And rather then fell try listening to the osund the stone is generating. When the bur is gone it is much smoother and quieter.

 

If your skis are not grabby or hooky, you've got it!

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 How are your skis performing?

 



 



 

post #33 of 35

Here is the video I mentioned: http://www.youtube.com/user/TokoUSVideos#p/u/6/xdzEwUSZdbI

 

In the "base edge" video that is part of this Toko series, Willi stops with a fine file on the base edge and then says the base edge polishing will be done when working on the side edges.

post #34 of 35

A couple of observations

 

#1. Not a fan of DMT stones. I think Moonflex are far superior

 

#2. He is using the diamond files dry. I would never use them dry. water at least or a commercial concoction. I use 50% water 50% denatured alcohol.

 

#3. I would never use an 8" file to do my side edges., 120mm works far better and are more stabel in a bevel guide and polish a smaller amount of the edge at a time adhereing better the modern sidecut.

 

#4. I see no reason to knock the hanging burr of 3 or 4 times. No reason you can't just do it after all side edge work is done. And I prefer an arkansas stone but a fine diamond will work.

 

 

 

One more time, how have your skis performed after your tunes? Any hookiness or grabbiness?

post #35 of 35
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Originally Posted by Atomicman View Post
One more time, how have your skis performed after your tunes? Any hookiness or grabbiness?


I haven't noticed any grabbiness. But I don't very often ski on really hard snow, which I assume would amplify the grabbiness if there were a hanging burr.

 

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