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post #31 of 114
1/3/12 at 8:48pm

I'll be there Thursday ... can't wait ... it doesn't even have to be all that good to make me happy ... biggrin.gif

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post #32 of 114
1/4/12 at 12:08pm

I made a few runs this morning and the skiing was great.  We've had a couple of warm, sunny days so things got toasted in a few spots, but overall the skiing is outstanding on the groomed stuff and good to excellent on the ungroomed (taking into account the fact that there are a lot of rocks around).

 

I'd love to make a run or two with you. 

 

Speaking of warm, sunny days, check out what happened to one rider in the near out-of-bounds two days ago.  This is the slide that tpj was referring to in post # 29.  This is a YIKES moment if I've ever seen one:

 

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post #33 of 114
1/4/12 at 3:14pm

Yowzah!  Looks like the cameraman was puckered up too.

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post #34 of 114
1/4/12 at 3:54pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post

I made a few runs this morning and the skiing was great.  We've had a couple of warm, sunny days so things got toasted in a few spots, but overall the skiing is outstanding on the groomed stuff and good to excellent on the ungroomed (taking into account the fact that there are a lot of rocks around).

 

I'd love to make a run or two with you. 

 

 

 

 Assuming that you're addressing me, I owe both you and TPJ a beer (or two) and will be in touch.
 

 

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post #35 of 114
1/4/12 at 5:39pm

Looking Forward to hearing from you.  Travel safe.

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post #36 of 114
1/4/12 at 5:46pm
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Originally Posted by tetonpwdrjunkie View Post

That slide on Pucker Face looked pretty impressive!  On Lower Tram Line today, I was able to easily reach my arm into the snow pack all the way to my shoulder and feel the bottom.  I think that this is the worst year I have ever seen for weak faceted snow at all elevations and aspects.


That was impressive!

Mother nature can be very humbling.

 



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 Assuming that you're addressing me, I owe both you and TPJ a beer (or two) and will be in touch.
 

 

Traitor!

Think of me when you toast to good snow and good friends.
 

 

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post #37 of 114
1/4/12 at 8:13pm
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

Traitor!

Think of me when you toast to good snow and good friends.
 

 



Why don't you get your silly self out here?? :-) 

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post #38 of 114
1/5/12 at 7:15am

Bob, looks like this turned out OK but very good and sobering Vid. It looks like that boarder made a life-saving cut turn?  What were the Avi-conditions that day?  that's a pretty major release and I am sure it's steeper than appears but it doesn't look like anytning more than 25-30*

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post #39 of 114
1/5/12 at 10:13am
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post

Cgril... As far as I know, Corbet's has never been done on a bike. It WAS done on a snowmobile.


And on blades, with a hockey stick for a rudder?

 

Nov 2011 Powder Mag Shot In The Back L.JPG

 

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post #40 of 114
1/5/12 at 1:21pm
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post

Bob, looks like this turned out OK but very good and sobering Vid. It looks like that boarder made a life-saving cut turn?


I wasn't there and I don't know the boarder but...

 

I've watched probably hundreds of professional ski cuts and made quite a few myself over the years, and my opinion would be that that was NOT an intentional cut.  I think he was out of balance as he started down and was just repositioning himself over the board when the snow let go.  There was nothing about his body language that would indicate he had any sense at all that he was going to release a massive avalanche.  

 

One of the most sacred principles of ski-cutting is that you have somebody spotting you or capable of coming to the rescue if the ski cut goes bad and you get slid.  The only spotter was the one with the camera.

 


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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post

  that's a pretty major release and I am sure it's steeper than appears but it doesn't look like anytning more than 25-30*

 

 

Double your first number and you're much closer to the actual.  This video is a perfect illustration of how much the lens distorts the steepness of a slope.  Pucker Face is named that for a reason.  It's north of 45 degrees on a good share of it and feels very exposed when you're out on it.  Maybe this photo from last year will help a little.  The little rounded knob in the upper right of this photo is about where the boarder was going to start his run:

 

Pucker Face January 2011.jpg

 

 

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post #41 of 114
1/5/12 at 2:40pm

Oh yeah!  that changes the perspective for sure.  Glad all are OK.  

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post #42 of 114
1/5/12 at 4:49pm

I am reminded of the slide that occured 3 (?) years ago that took out much of building that is at the top of the Gondola. Was there with several other Bears, including Finndog, and the slide fell only days prior to our arrival. It was just awesome to look at all the snow piled up against the building. Until you see one "up close and personal", you can't believe!

 

Stay safe all -

 

segbrown - jealous, very jealous! Ever been before to ski with BP and TPJ. Skiing-in-Jackson is a must meet.....make turns with his family.

 

Every year, I don't return to JH, I'll just be one year older. Love that place.

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post #43 of 114
1/11/12 at 6:44pm
The mountain skied great. It was cold and for awhile the powder was blower.

Headwall opened and I got there at the end of the first wave. Plenty of untracked there was. North facing stuff blew in very well and covered some bumps. I think it was the happiest 6" of my life.
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post #44 of 114
1/12/12 at 7:01am
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Originally Posted by lgbl7192 View Post

I am going to Jackson Hole on the 3rd of January and I'm wondering what amount of the terrain will be open. There predicted to get a foot in the next couple days but idk if that's enough to open a good amount of runs. What does it normally take to open new terrain? And from any of your experience what amount of terrain was open in early January.

Thanks!



 Hey threadstarter - how 'bout a trip report?

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post #45 of 114
1/18/12 at 11:15am
Filling in FAST!

Light and windy conditions demand proper dressing.

This is Jackson. The snow is here.
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post #46 of 114
1/18/12 at 11:29am


 

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Originally Posted by Skiing-in-Jackson View Post

Filling in FAST!
Light and windy conditions demand proper dressing.
This is Jackson. The snow is here.


^good news - just need a bit of a window on Sun late afternoon for the plane to land.  Will be coming by for perhaps some footbeds.and a boot tweak or two

 

 

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post #47 of 114
1/18/12 at 11:31am
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Originally Posted by Skiing-in-Jackson View Post

Filling in FAST!
Light and windy conditions demand proper dressing.
This is Jackson. The snow is here.


Hi Stephen,

 

Our friends Gary and Alice are in JH this week. Did they stop in to see the zen master of fitting. Glad you are  getting some.

 

Mike

 

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post #48 of 114
1/18/12 at 12:52pm


they took the day off; said it was too windy...
 

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Hi Stephen,

 

Our friends Gary and Alice are in JH this week. Did they stop in to see the zen master of fitting. Glad you are  getting some.

 

Mike

 



 

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post #49 of 114
1/18/12 at 6:39pm
I saw Gary and Alice at Casper Restaurant yesterday. It was great to see them- they are great peeps.

The mountain skied great today. Yes, it was very windy. I got a new steezy cowboy scarf for my B-Day and it helped with the gusty conditions a bunch. I heard it was like another at the top of the Tram- mega windy. I skied w/ Liberty and had a great time taking stealthy lines on Ranger Ridge. Fun pic to follow!
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post #50 of 114
1/18/12 at 6:59pm
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Originally Posted by Skiing-in-Jackson View Post

I saw Gary and Alice at Casper Restaurant yesterday. It was great to see them- they are great peeps.
The mountain skied great today. Yes, it was very windy. I got a new steezy cowboy scarf for my B-Day and it helped with the gusty conditions a bunch. I heard it was like another at the top of the Tram- mega windy. I skied w/ Liberty and had a great time taking stealthy lines on Ranger Ridge. Fun pic to follow!
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Very windy is putting it mildly. wink.gif

I couldn't see the inside of my goggle lenses up on Rendezvous Bowl.

Tomorrow should be Ep-tastic.


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post #51 of 114
1/18/12 at 7:29pm

Liberty around 12:45 PM today in an area called Blacktail.  Keeping your speed up was key.

 

liberty.jpg

 

Go to bed EARLY!  The party starts tomorrow 9:00 AM! 

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post #52 of 114
1/18/12 at 8:20pm

Lucky bastards. Not only am I not in Colorado, I'm in downstate NY hoping to get home to sample some powdery fluffiness at weekend.  Enjoy!

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post #53 of 114
1/19/12 at 7:50pm

Any idea how much more snow is needed to open up Alta, Corbets and some of the other blacks that are closed?

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post #54 of 114
1/19/12 at 8:16pm
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Originally Posted by skier357 View Post

Any idea how much more snow is needed to open up Alta, Corbets and some of the other blacks that are closed?


My guess would be that the Alta Chutes will open before the week is out. I have no idea about Corbet's.
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post #55 of 114
1/19/12 at 9:28pm

Arrived in Jackson last Friday and Sat-Tues was a bit thin but Tuesday it started to snow a bit.  Yesterday it really started coming down and we enjoyed a morning of fantastic snow until my wife injured her knee (MRI tomorrow) in Tower Three Chute when she found a hidden rock.  The snow continued falling and our evening flight out was cancelled. 

I spent the day skiing all over the mountain and it was deep, deep and DEEP!  The trees off of Thunder were awesome and the chutes had filled in nicely. Alta chutes were still closed but Sublette chair was only open for a brief time due to wind closures and finally an avalanche risk.  Perhaps tomorrow?  Our flight out this evening was again cancelled so I'll be back out in the morning skiing as much as possible.  I imagine there will be quite a bit of avalanche work needed in the AM so no need for a super early start.   

Not many flights landing these past couple of days and none have left. As much as I don't like cancelled flights, this ain't the worst place to be "holed" up...

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post #56 of 114
1/20/12 at 4:54am

Sorry about your wife. Sounds like you've been able to sympathetically ice her knee finding deep Poe in the trees.  Continue.

 

Mike

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post #57 of 114
1/20/12 at 6:00am

Bummer about your wife's knee.  Best of luck to her and you.

 

 

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post #58 of 114
1/20/12 at 6:06am

Now for the good news...

 

Twenty-five inches of snow in the last 24 hours.  37" in the last 48 hours.  The mountain is fantastic from top to bottom.  Avalanche warning is in effect for all backcountry areas.

 

I have a feeling the Alta chutes and Expert chutes will be open as soon as ski patrol can do avi work on the rest of the mountain.  I'll take a look at Corbet's from the tram today to see how it looks.

 

Oh, and the even gooder news...

 

It's still snowing hard and is supposed to keep it up into Sunday.

 

I'm off to ride the early tram.  Y'all have fun.

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post #59 of 114
1/20/12 at 8:02am
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post


I wasn't there and I don't know the boarder but...

 

I've watched probably hundreds of professional ski cuts and made quite a few myself over the years, and my opinion would be that that was NOT an intentional cut.  I think he was out of balance as he started down and was just repositioning himself over the board when the snow let go.  There was nothing about his body language that would indicate he had any sense at all that he was going to release a massive avalanche.  

 

One of the most sacred principles of ski-cutting is that you have somebody spotting you or capable of coming to the rescue if the ski cut goes bad and you get slid.  The only spotter was the one with the camera.

 


 

Double your first number and you're much closer to the actual.  This video is a perfect illustration of how much the lens distorts the steepness of a slope.  Pucker Face is named that for a reason.  It's north of 45 degrees on a good share of it and feels very exposed when you're out on it.  Maybe this photo from last year will help a little.  The little rounded knob in the upper right of this photo is about where the boarder was going to start his run:

 

Pucker Face January 2011.jpg

 

 


And he did a bad job at that (spotting him, that is).
Clearly, hindsight on my side but...
He should have kept the camera fixed on the guy, exactly for the reason you mention Bob. Had the guy been caught in by the avalanche, it could have contained life saving images of where he might have ended up.
TG he was not caught...
Again, hindsight, but we all can learn from lucky escapes as well as from drama
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post #60 of 114
1/20/12 at 8:16am

best wishes for a complete recovery.  Welcome to the ACL 2012 club....  icon14.gif

 

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Originally Posted by Crimptacular View Post

Arrived in Jackson last Friday and Sat-Tues was a bit thin but Tuesday it started to snow a bit.  Yesterday it really started coming down and we enjoyed a morning of fantastic snow until my wife injured her knee (MRI tomorrow) in Tower Three Chute when she found a hidden rock.  The snow continued falling and our evening flight out was cancelled. 

I spent the day skiing all over the mountain and it was deep, deep and DEEP!  The trees off of Thunder were awesome and the chutes had filled in nicely. Alta chutes were still closed but Sublette chair was only open for a brief time due to wind closures and finally an avalanche risk.  Perhaps tomorrow?  Our flight out this evening was again cancelled so I'll be back out in the morning skiing as much as possible.  I imagine there will be quite a bit of avalanche work needed in the AM so no need for a super early start.   

Not many flights landing these past couple of days and none have left. As much as I don't like cancelled flights, this ain't the worst place to be "holed" up...



 

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