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VERY slightly used 2010 Rossignol Avenger 82 Carbons w/ Axium 120 - good buy?

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Hey guys, I'm thinking about buying my second pair of skis. I have been skiing on these for two years: http://www.epicski.com/t/18158/head-i-xrc-1100-chip-system. I'm 5'10" and 160lbs. Tend to stick to the groomers but I'm looking for something that will give me more flexibility with powder (in Utah). I can pick up these skis/bindings for $400. They've been used no more than five times and are in great condition. What do you think? 

 

Would also appreciate any other suggestions. I know a guy selling used Rossignol Phantom 80s for $175 with retail bindings. $400 is definitely the upper limit of my budget, but I want something that will last me the next 2-3 seasons. 

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IMO the carbon avenger is a great one ski quiver for lighter skiers (I'm 165, 6') - Real Skiers liked them better than the Ti for most folks, and my very limited time on them out west (1 run) suggested they're a nice all-around biased toward the frontside, can be bent into various turn shapes, excellent grip for the width, little more lively than some new Rossi's. Not for maching crud, but I don't think that's what you're asking for. I've owned the XRC 1200's, I believe a slightly stiffer version of your 1100's, have a hunch these will be a definite improvement on softer snow, in bumps, tighter spaces, wash on normal groomers, not as good on ice. FWIW this is a good deal if they're truly in nice condition, otherwise nothing special.

 

Counterpoint: Not really wide enough to excel in Utah powder, although the flex is what you're looking for. An alternative would be to keep your 1100's (which won't get you very much if you try to sell them), and get something in the high 90's. There are several skis like the Watea 98, Blizzard One, and Line Prophet 98 that would be more fun in the trees or bowls. All three (well, the One could take some searching) should be available at nice prices within another month. So some of this depends on a) if you plan to keep the 1100's for hard days, and 2) if you want to move yourself more and more off the groomers or if you just want the capability once in a while. 

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IMO the carbon avenger is a great one ski quiver for lighter skiers (I'm 165, 6') - Real Skiers liked them better than the Ti for most folks, and my very limited time on them out west (1 run) suggested they're a nice all-around biased toward the frontside, can be bent into various turn shapes, excellent grip for the width, little more lively than some new Rossi's. Not for maching crud, but I don't think that's what you're asking for. I've owned the XRC 1200's, I believe a slightly stiffer version of your 1100's, have a hunch these will be a definite improvement on softer snow, in bumps, tighter spaces, wash on normal groomers, not as good on ice. FWIW this is a good deal if they're truly in nice condition, otherwise nothing special.

 

Counterpoint: Not really wide enough to excel in Utah powder, although the flex is what you're looking for. An alternative would be to keep your 1100's (which won't get you very much if you try to sell them), and get something in the high 90's. There are several skis like the Watea 98, Blizzard One, and Line Prophet 98 that would be more fun in the trees or bowls. All three (well, the One could take some searching) should be available at nice prices within another month. So some of this depends on a) if you plan to keep the 1100's for hard days, and 2) if you want to move yourself more and more off the groomers or if you just want the capability once in a while. 

 


Wow, thanks so much for the tips. Yeah, I'm actually considering whether or not to get rid of the 1100's. How much do you think they would get? I think it would be nice to always have a fallback ski for really hard days. 

 

Any thoughts on the Phantom 80s that I mentioned?

 

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The key question is whether to replace or supplement what you already have. If it is to replace, then the two Rossis that you mention will be OK and incrementally better in deeper snow. If it is to supplement, then you are looking at a different ski altogether. Depending upon your priorities, this could be anywhere from 95mm to 110 or even wider.

 

Most ski shops will start having sales about late February-March however, you won't likely find your $400 w/bindings target before the summer at best. Best to make a firm decision on the replace or supplement thing and then start to shop the used market. Right now you are sorta casting about aimlessly. Get that decision made before you start looking at specific stuff then you'll be less likely to impulsively pounce on a "good deal" on a ski in the wrong category.

 

SJ

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The 1100's are older carvers that barely sell new nowadays; I would guess $75-$100 maybe, but they could just sit too. Have not skied the Phantom 80's, but my impression is that they will be beefier and smoother with the titanium, a little more oriented toward crud, a little less oriented toward holding an edge on groomers. $175 is a very nice price if they're in good condition, no gouges, no significant base or edge damage. Again, if you see your self spending more time off piste, then something like the Phantom will be a little more appropriate, but I'm not seeing the point of a 80-82 mm waist for that mission. While if you see yourself more on groomers, then the 80-82 is great, choice between lighter and livelier and heavier and smoother. Both are nice skis. My sense is that the Avengers have been more popular. 

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Thanks everyone. I guess I won't buy either for now.

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In my search for a value/one ski quiver ski/binding set that I could use out west once or twice a year mainly on groomers, but a little crud, and also at home here in the midwest, I just ordered the 82 Carbon's. Found them online new, they were asking $440. They took my offer of $400 and the skis should be here tomorrow. They are the 177's and i thought that would be a good length for me. I'm 5'11 180lbs, athletic build. I'm no expert, but I can find deals. Hope this helps with your decision and good luck! And for God sakes, can someone please do a snow dance out west?!

 

http://www.o2gearshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=2&products_id=41619

 

 

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