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I have a pair of Scott Punishers in a 172 lenght that i skied twice, i had ordered a 186 and just never sent them back, they were mounted with Look Pivot 14s but i used them on my new skis, i was setting these up for my son and got him the Rossi Axial bindings but he lost interest in the Punishers. I mounted the Axial toe pieces do to the fact that the holes lined up but the heel pieces need to be mounted, i did not want to drill any more holes in the skis, the heel piece hole pattern is differant, they were mounted for 295bsl with the Looks. $275.00 for all.