how boney is it out there?
18 " of base at Mid Vail usually means straddling small trees...
Out visiting my daughter, SIL and baby Granddaughter in Northglenn for Christmas. Skied Eldora last Friday 12/23 and today 12/26.Not bad,especially considering how lousy things have been at home in Rochester NY.Eldora got about 15" last Thursday and the groomers were decent. No real bump runs and the trees were closed, but hey-it's skiing.If conditions were just a wee bit better I'd go to Loveland tomorrow, but with not a ton of terrain, I don't feel up to the holiday week crowd and the I-70 battle. Too bad-we got spoiled by our pre-XMas visit last year!
The kids are moving to SLC in January-nailing down the dates for a March visit shortly! In the meantime, back to Upstate NY on Wed. and the start of beer league/Master racing(if it gets cold enough to make snow)
I like your positive attitude...the skiing isn't awful in comparison to many other areas but in comparison to last year it is not good. I'll agree it is better than no skiing at all....
"Groomed packed powder" is what we had at Eldora yesterday-just like what we ski on frequently back east. Conditions would have been great for racing!
Too bad my quiver of race skis was 3000 miles away-slaloms and cheater GS skis would have been perfect.
In CO, it's pretty good early in the morning, from 8:30-10:30, before the corduroy is scraped off and the ice emerges. If you're sick of the ice, it's fun to lap runs with a shallower pitch. IMO, hard snow conditions are a great opportunity to work on finding the sweet spot of your skis, and pressuring the tips. The edge doesn't lie; it either holds or it doesn't. These conditions may not be a blast, but they are useful.
But I admit, if I weren't a passholder, and I was planning an expensive trip to a great area, I'd be pretty ticked off with the conditions. Luckily, I can be patient.
Certainly subscribe to getting as much in first thing in the morning . I was just lookin at the Mid Vail Mtn. Cam and traffic looked very light for Christmas week at 9:20 AM. I have to assume people sleep in except it to soften up later etc. But with a 19 in base, I'd bet that after the courdoury is skied off, it's pretty slick the rest of the day.
I was out at Vail for 4 days the first week of Dec. We enjoyed it and it did snow (fortunately) the last two days. Didn't mind the "hard snow" as it still was probably as good as what we would call pretty decent here at home. I was a little concerned with the traffic on the limited runs that were open.
Kind of got the feeling after a few hours that I was beginning to press my luck a bit. Nothing really against snowboarders OK, but the loud scraping sounds on firm conditions makes me a bit ancy.
I've gotten out a few times this year, and am going up this coming weekend. It's nice out. There is enough man made snow to cover everything, and it's fast out there. I'm a powder hound and yes, I'm praying for snow like no other, but I'm happy to be out there. It's been sunny, not too crowded except for Avanti lift from what I've seen, and I find myself making much longer runs. I usually visit vista bahn once each day, to get to the rest of the mountain, but now I'm skiing from mountaintop to vista bahn all the time. Each time I've gone I've found the snow conditions are best on berries and pickeroon. I also spent almost all of last year in BSB, so it's been kinda nice to get to know more of the front side of the mountain and Game Creek Bowl. It's been a nice warm up to what is going to be my biggest season to date.
Sounds like you're doing some New England skiing, Bob. "Firm" is an understatement, perhaps? Are you skiing under thaw/freeze conditions?
Bulletproof I am all-too familiar with. It's odd to be skiing pretty regularly on firm man-made snow, then reading on Epic about trying something then looking back to see your tracks. When you can't penetrate the "snow" with your pole no matter how hard you smash it into the surface, you're not going to be able to see your tracks.
When lots of people crowd up on this firm stuff and ski off the corduroy ribs, what's left I call frozen suede. I think of the loose granules collecting at the side of the trail as salt. If it's warm enough for the suede to melt a bit and refreeze, thus getting too smooth to be suede any more, it's formica. Salt on formica has been common here so far this season.
Well, I'm flying out to Colorado in late January, so I'd appreciate it if "they" could make it change before then. I don't need to fly 2000 miles to ski dust-on-crust.
This "forecast" was probably a long-range outlook from the Climate Prediction Center, part of the National Weather Service (NWS) at the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). See http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/
Note that these long-range outlooks are very coarse (large area) and should be thought of as highly-educated guesses -- these are not considered actual forecasts. You'll notice the maps just suggest whether temperature and precipitation are likely to be above normal, below normal or equal to normal compared to past long-term climate averages.
several years ago we were in copper during a time with little recent snow and firm conditions, while in a lesson the instructor ask me if i was from the east coast, said i was the only one in his group that wasn't skidding around and bitchin about the snow, took that as a compliment!!
Man, I understand the optimism but come on. I've been at Copper every week this month...had the most fun scraping my skis on Mine Dump and even enjoyed that little stretch of upper Triple Treat. Other than that it's groomer calisthenics and avoiding the mad bombers.