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Running Retro Bindings - Limited Risks?

post #1 of 5
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It's been over 10 years since I skied on my 'retro' gears.  It seems that my risk is low, if I don't take any drops, and ski a leisurely pace.  Even if one binding explodes, I still have one ski. The odds of two simultaneously failures would be low, right? 


Three bindings in mind are: Look 77s, Geze 940s, and Salomon 337s. 


How often do you run you retro gears?

post #2 of 5

Of your three, I would be most concerned about the Salomon 337 bindings.  I have seen a few heels explode.  One explosion happened when I inserted a boot into the binding on the workbench at a shop that I worked at.  The spring shot out so fast, that it embedded itself into the sheet rock.


Maybe others can comment on the Look and Geze models.


Once a year, some of my ski buddies and I dress up in our late 80s/early 90s clothes and ski on gear from that era.  I have some Kastle RX15 Super G skis with Marker MRR (latch in style) and Lange ZR boots that I show up with.  We get funny looks from people.



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I agree with the 337.  The oldest boots I have in possession are the Lange ZS (Thermo Fit?).  Nobody ever notice them.  It's the long skinny skis that people notice.  I feel pretty good about the Gezes and Looks.

post #4 of 5

I ski the n77's, no problems for me. Metal is the key here assuming the general condition is good.

In the end, they are your legs so do what you are comfortable with. Here is the old "self release check"

Proceed at your own risk.....  eek.gif



From the 1984 Geze in-box Consumer Instructions;

"Self-Release Method.

Unusually aggressive skiers and racers who sometimes need higher settings can use the Self-Release Method to obrtain these special settings. This method [conducted in the proper way] may help to insure that the special settings these skiers need will not be grossly overtightened, which is the usual case with adjustments made without using this method.

Start by using the presettings for [Type III+] skiers that are suggested on the Geze release setting chart.

Heel Setting:

— Stand on one foot with the boot buckled as it is during skiing.

— The ski should not be helf fixed.

— Release the heel by bending the lower leg forward (move the knee forward and down—toward the forebody of the ski). Do not lunge forward with the opposite leg because this will cause an undesirable upward pulling on the Achillies tendon.

— Readjust the forward heel release setting to your "comfort threshold".

Toe Setting:

— Place the ski on its inside edge by rolling the knee inward and then SLOWLY twist the foot inward. Rapid twisting should be avoided because it is not the worst case for maximum loading.

— Readjust the setting to your "comfort threshold".

If, based on further skiing, it is believed that higher settings are needed, the setting may be increased as long as self release is still possible."

post #5 of 5
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Thanks for the Geze instructions.  I've released / lowered the spring pressure on these during storage (down to 4 DIN).  Both the Looks and Gezes are in great condition; the Salomons, not so much.  The latter ski set will go onto some wall.

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