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Any Feedback on Roce Idea Boots for Older Kids, Size 22.5-25.5?

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No Roce dealers here in the area but I like the concept of this boot. I see a lot of feedback on these for what looks like the smaller and medium sizes. However, does anyone have any feedback for older kids into the 3 buckle size 22.5-25.5 range of boot that they sell?

 

Son is 9, current boot size is a 22 and an intermediate but recreational skier. He does not ski hard but does enjoy it. We go about 7-8 times a year. Longest stretch so far we got 2 seasons out of his last set. Some boots such as Dalbello seem to have models that fit a small range and it kind of worked out for us. However, I am not counting on that going forward with how much he just grew in 6 months. 

 

Comfort, warmth, and fit are obviously important. However, having wide feet he already is limited to only a few brands of boots to begin with. Trading up every year or two so far has been our routine and our ski shop does a 50% value discount up to 2 years out to by new boots. 

 

Putting cost aside, we hate shopping for boots and so does my son. That is bad as he is sometimes so anxious to get out of the store that he will agree to a boot fitting just to get the heck out of there. 

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Let me start out with a positive, if fit and comfort is all you are looking for, than they work well for that. On the other hand, He is at the complete lower end of the size range on this boot. The shell length changes, however, the overall length in mm does not so the skier still carries around alot of extra weight between the extra plastic and the sizing mechanism.  In short, they are not light.

 

I do not have scientific proof on this but IMO what I mentioned above also changes the boot,binding matchup. If he has a junior binding, these are 292 mm and with an adult dimension toe and heel height so added stress is already put on the binding.  New bindings and a remount may be in order so keep this in mind also. His DIN will be higher due to the length.

 

In closing, I would say for what they are and their intentions, they are convenient. However, what you gain in convenience, you lose in any performance. Please try  to instill to him as everyone else on here will hopefully agree, boots are the most important piece of equipment in skiing. At a younger age it is probably not as big a deal but IMO at 9, he is in his real learning stage, try and give him all the advantages you can. He will thank you for it in the end.  Respectfully,  Dave

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Thanks Dave. I just bought him some new Elan Formula skis with the Quick Trick bindings. They can be adjusted in seconds. I'm sure the din settings will change with that jump in size. You bring up a good point though and I will need to check to see if they actually fit into that range. I also did not think about that added weight / room that he would be carrying around. 

 

It just seems that he is in that range right between the 1-2 buckle kind of toddler looking style boots and the older kids 3-4 buckle boots. 

 

 

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What is your location?  The Alpina junior boots are a little on the wider side and very reasonably priced as well.

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I think Davidski summed it up pretty good.  As with anything there are pros and cons.  I think most on here would suggest the cons are more than the pros.  Both of my girls are using the boots (large size) and are very happy with the fit and comfort.  These are their second pair.  I have had no issue with the quality of the boots.  Do they provide the level of performance like a regular boot - obviously not.  But my girls only get 6-8 days skiing a year and would be catergorized as pure recreational skiers.  So in my situation, the pros outweigh the cons.

 

Here is a thread with several comments on the topic.

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/66660/roces-adjustable-ski-boots

 

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When I fit kids for boots, I take every bit of information into consideration before making a decision on a boot, size, fit, and performance. I treat every situation as if they were my own kids and then it is up to the parents. They usually appreciate the treatment.  So I guess I am a lousy salesman, but more importantly to me, an honest bootfitter.

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Originally Posted by Daveski7 View Post

When I fit kids for boots, I take every bit of information into consideration before making a decision on a boot, size, fit, and performance. I treat every situation as if they were my own kids and then it is up to the parents. They usually appreciate the treatment.  So I guess I am a lousy salesman, but more importantly to me, an honest bootfitter.


Sounds like the right way to do business.  May lose a sale here or there but I suspect your repeat business is very good.
 

 

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I would like to think so, safety and proper equipment lead to good things in my eyes.

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