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post #31 of 42
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Do you want me to pull all of your fallacies out of that? There are plenty.

post #32 of 42
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Do you want me to pull all of your fallacies out of that? There are plenty.


 

It's up to you if you choose to respond in this debate.  I'm not sure why this last post from you is necessary.

post #33 of 42
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If you want to move on to the next assumption, that a skier listening to music is more likely to collide with you (and be at fault) due to the proximate cause of listening to music, have at it. It too would be incorrect. Auditory senses are not essential to avoiding collisions with a person in your field of view. If you are not looking where you are going, you are at fault, whether you have music on or not.

 

 

Consider how people tend to ski in their own little bubble when their ipods are blaring. I've certainly gotten lost in music before, which is why I won't listen to music while skiing. The proof's in cognitive information processing theory. 

 

Heck, I've even gotten lost in the sensation of a good turn before, only to snap out of it and realize someone's within 50 feet below. Ongoing music would be an ongoing distraction to me, and I can't imagine I'm the only skier so captivated by music. 

 

But it's not an epidemic right now, is it?

post #34 of 42
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It certainly does matter who's at fault. You're claiming that it would be okay to take away someone else's rights because you perceive an increased risk of collisions where YOU are at fault. That is unethical, and the difference between this topic and driving while texting.



There is no difference. If someone isn't paying attention and can't hear and they swoop out in front of you, it is their fault. Same way if someone veers in front of you on the road, it's there fault even if some bad state law says it's always the fault of the person in back. If someone side swipes you or cuts in front of you last minute, it's his fault if you crash. And if the reason it happened is because he couldn't hear you because he was too busy blasting his drums, well then that's a problem. Not saying it needs regulation, just that it could if such problems became rampant, it might be worth a look. They haven't as far as I know.

post #35 of 42

i figure like many laws, it would simply be another method to indicate fault or negligence on a party.  Texting and cell phone use where illegal i noted is being checked by law enforcement though carriers.  Several car wrecks (this week in Mo or example) make the news as law enforcement is checking for the violation.  This may be no different than checking a skier for intoxication, ski patrol will simply ask if in a wreck if either party had headphones or ear pcs in.  if witnessed, and a bad incident, then another legal at fault blame to lay.

post #36 of 42
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Originally Posted by LogicX View PostThe difference between this and another law like a helmet law is that you are only harming yourself if you do something stupid like not wearing a helmet.  But not being able to hear people on the slopes poses danger to others, in which case I am perfectly fine with legislating away your happiness/ability to put ME at risk.


you couldn' help yourself, could ya.......  nonono2.gif

post #37 of 42
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you couldn' help yourself, could ya.......  nonono2.gif


 

I was posting a contrary opinion to someone else's post.  The helmet law comparison was just an easy analogy to make in a topic debating skiing laws.

post #38 of 42

People, people, can we at least just agree to a ban on listening to the Eagles while skiing?

post #39 of 42

Can IPODs play Black Sabbath at "78 Speed"wink.gif?   That could be distracting.   Does anyone else remember what 78 speed is?

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Can IPODs play Black Sabbath at "78 Speed"wink.gif?   That could be distracting.   Does anyone else remember what 78 speed is?


These kids don't even remember "Walkmans", much less Astraltunes.  Bone Fone anyone?

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post #41 of 42

aschick = the Dude?

 


 

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People, people, can we at least just agree to a ban on listening to the Eagles while skiing?



 

post #42 of 42

Far out JayT, far out.

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