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What do you usually ride for your first run of the season (type of ski)?

Poll Results: What type of ski do you usually use for your first turns of the season?

 
  • 50% (17)
    SL or tight carvering ski
  • 20% (7)
    GS or longer high speed carving ski
  • 17% (6)
    Midfat (or twin that you don't use in the park much)
  • 2% (1)
    Twin tip (more park specific than midfat)
  • 5% (2)
    Powder specific (100mm + includes reverse and rockers)
  • 0% (0)
    Bump ski
  • 2% (1)
    Snow Blades
  • 0% (0)
    Snowboard
34 Total Votes  
post #1 of 46
12/12/11 at 10:40am
Thread Starter 

I realize this varies WIDELY on conditions, crowds, and amount of terrain open.  What kind of ski do you usually end up bring for your first runs of the season?  I plan to ski Wednesday and have three different options ready to bring.  I expect a fair base on 100% manmade and uncrowded on somewhat challenging blue runs open top to bottom (roughly around 1000 vert).

 

Hoping to rock a longer GS first for some cruising.  Have a shorter GS rock ski and a fun bump ski that is also a decent tighter carver if it is rougher, thinner, or more crowded than expected.

 

All mountain can go in carver or midfat depending on if it is under/over 80mm underfoot.

 

If you are using whatever you use for a thin cover rock ski please select the category that ski falls in above or don't vote (instead just post it) if it isn't represented.

 

If you are using a tele or touring specific ski please select the category that ski falls in above or don't vote (instead just post it) if it isn't represented.

 

Please vote and discuss..


Edited by crgildart - 12/12/11 at 10:58am
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post #2 of 46
12/12/11 at 10:56am

I took my new, used Volkl 11ftPSs for a few turns at Sunday River, ME last Friday. Ran over a few bare spots (light gouges only). They were the perfect ski for man made, scratchy conditions. 

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post #3 of 46
12/12/11 at 10:59am
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Originally Posted by Vinstant View Post

I took my new, used Volkl 11ftPSs for a few turns at Sunday River, ME last Friday. Ran over a few bare spots (light gouges only). They were the perfect ski for man made, scratchy conditions. 


 

I go with an SL whenever I expect huge crowds... easier avoid getting hit/hitting folks on those...

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post #4 of 46
12/12/11 at 11:05am

I use a 110mm underfoot Fortitude Yeti for most conditions.

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post #5 of 46
12/12/11 at 11:06am

How about a mid-fat GS radius ski? smile.gif  Rossi E98. Teley, an older pair of BD Verdicts (v1.0). 

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post #6 of 46
12/12/11 at 11:12am

SL all the way, they make mountains out of molehills.

JF

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post #7 of 46
12/12/11 at 11:28am

Where?

 

Saturday I was on 125mm ski at Highlands opener.   I was running a GS ski most other days, as Aspen has had Spar and Copper buffed and tends to turn an blind eye on bombing it!

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post #8 of 46
12/12/11 at 11:49am

I ski my Blizzard Magnum 7.6's pretty much every day here in the north-east.  They get a bit beat up, but, hey, tools, not jewels.  :)

 

I have other skis that get babied a bit more, but they're wider, and I don't see the point of width and big turn radii when there's not enough open terrain to justify it.

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post #9 of 46
12/12/11 at 12:19pm
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

How about a mid-fat GS radius ski? smile.gif  Rossi E98. Teley, an older pair of BD Verdicts (v1.0). 



Still a mid fat in most books.  I'd call 98mm fat personally.  If it is over 80mm underfoot I don't think it is fair to call it "GS" or "carver"regardless of the degrees of radius.

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post #10 of 46
12/12/11 at 1:19pm
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post



Still a mid fat in most books.  I'd call 98mm fat personally.  If it is over 80mm underfoot I don't think it is fair to call it "GS" or "carver"regardless of the degrees of radius.



I don't know, crg.

 

I've always been a believer in narrow-waisted skis for hard snow, but I've spent the last three days on a new pair of Rossi E98's.  They've been slicing out some pretty significant trenches on our manmade hardpack.  They require a bit more attention from the driver, but they'll seriously do the output if given the proper input.

 

I'm having lots of fun on the E98's and I have multiple pairs of race stock skis I could be using instead if I wanted to.

 

Just sayin'. 

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post #11 of 46
12/12/11 at 1:43pm

Usually rock skis, but since you din't offer that choice and snowblades come the closest...

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post #12 of 46
12/12/11 at 1:59pm
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Originally Posted by k2skier View Post

Usually rock skis, but since you din't offer that choice and snowblades come the closest...



 

It's in the Rules.gif  You followed the same logic
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

If you are using whatever you use for a thin cover rock ski please select the category that ski falls in above or don't vote (instead just post it) if it isn't represented.

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post #13 of 46
12/12/11 at 2:04pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post



I don't know, crg.

 

I've always been a believer in narrow-waisted skis for hard snow, but I've spent the last three days on a new pair of Rossi E98's.  They've been slicing out some pretty significant trenches on our manmade hardpack.  They require a bit more attention from the driver, but they'll seriously do the output if given the proper input.

 

I'm having lots of fun on the E98's and I have multiple pairs of race stock skis I could be using instead if I wanted to.

 

Just sayin'. 


I know, you're moving to the "my gotamas can carve ice as well as your race skis" camptongue.gif.  I agree with you that it is really more the indian than it is the arrow.  But as long as we have race specific and carving specific skis versus mixed conditions to deep condition skis I prefer to keep the categories somewhat exclusive.  When I see world cup skiers (or even NASTAR pace setters) laying down decent course times on a 85mm ski I'll join you in the opinion that a 80+ can be referred to as a hardpack carving ski.

 

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post #14 of 46
12/12/11 at 2:05pm

Often it's a pair of rental telemark skis from the Wachusett Demo Center.  The yellow K2s. I think they're carving skis,  but may be midfats.

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post #15 of 46
12/12/11 at 2:23pm

My first runs most years are done on whatever my AT gear is. This year though I have spent most of my time skiing on WC SL skis.

 

we need natural snow pretty bad.

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post #16 of 46
12/12/11 at 3:02pm

It may have been dumb, but I started my season using my brand new Bonafides on man-made snow.  Luckily, coverage was good.  Of course, I was rusty and the unfamiliar skis probably didn't help.

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post #17 of 46
12/12/11 at 3:13pm
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Props to all you SL ski rippers.  I wouldn't last very long on a SL ski on day one.  You are likely in better shape than I am.  On the first day out I shoot for what will be the least amount of work required, i.e. more cruising and coasting and less turning.  I'll tighten it up more next time.  However, if I have to fight the crowd and manage to show up on a SUPER crowded weekend or holiday I agree that the nimbleness of a SL ski is best for nonono2.gifthose conditions.

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post #18 of 46
12/12/11 at 3:14pm

I only have two pairs, mid-fat and bigger mid-fat (was considered WIDE when I bought it, tho), so the answer is "mid fat".

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post #19 of 46
12/12/11 at 3:16pm

First day in the East on man-made snow ... I will be using my Hart Phoenix.

 

Are you planning to ski Beech on Wednesday?

 

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post #20 of 46
12/12/11 at 3:36pm
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Originally Posted by hobbes429 View Post

First day in the East on man-made snow ... I will be using my Hart Phoenix.

 

Are you planning to ski Beech on Wednesday?

 



icon14.gif to the hart Phoenix

I'm leaning towards Beech if the snow up top holds.  Old Boot and LS might meet me somewhere.  Tempsnonono2.gif in the 40s tomorrow.  If it doesn't look so good there we'll do Sugar instead.  I'll make the call tomorrow night depending on what we all decide.

 

Got plans?th_dunno-1[1].gif

 

 

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post #21 of 46
12/12/11 at 3:38pm

On man made snow?  Carvers.  Either an old pair of Stockli Spirit Pro II (soft enough for skiing any speed comfortably with the kids) or Laser SC.  My older Laser SC has a 63mm waist and qualifies as "tight."  The first runs are always the same, going back to the fundamentals of good balance and then putting the skis on edge and pressuring them.  My lateral movement got a little screwy last season when I experimented using a fat ski for a daily driver on hardpack, so I'll be sure to guard against that this year.

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post #22 of 46
12/12/11 at 3:41pm
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

Props to all you SL ski rippers.  I wouldn't last very long on a SL ski on day one.  You are likely in better shape than I am.  On the first day out I shoot for what will be the least amount of work required, i.e. more cruising and coasting and less turning.  I'll tighten it up more next time.  However, if I have to fight the crowd and manage to show up on a SUPER crowded weekend or holiday I agree that the nimbleness of a SL ski is best for nonono2.gifthose conditions.


I skied 64k vertical feet on SL skis one day last week. All high energy turns. When I can ski woods I fell bad for the people skiing with me.

 

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post #23 of 46
12/12/11 at 3:46pm

This year it's going to be the P50 F1s (low 20s radius, flexible longitudinally, stiff in torsion, tuned mildly, i.e. 1 base 2 side for any kind of skiing).

I really have no fixed rule, sometimes it's been SL, sometimes Gs, and for a good many years SG, sometimes whatever they had in the rental shop. 

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post #24 of 46
12/12/11 at 6:03pm

I'll be on my faithful Atomic 94 Snoops. My slalom skis were new last spring and have about 6 runs on them, so I'll wait for better

coverage. Don't trust myself or the other skiers enough to bring out the GS skis on the WROD for the first day.

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post #25 of 46
12/12/11 at 7:03pm

I would be on my carving ski, except that I do not have anyfrown.gif.  So the first few days I was on my LPRs (100mm) ski.  Yeah, it was still fun.  Now I have a mounted Bonafide to have more fun on. I am not taking it off-piste though until the coverage improves.   I should bring my old Solly XScreams, just for fun.  

 

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post #26 of 46
12/12/11 at 7:17pm

Fischer RX8, the right prescription for man-made eastern ice with occasional, oddly spaced, mounds of snow thrown in.

 

STE

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post #27 of 46
12/12/11 at 7:33pm
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post


I skied 64k vertical feet on SL skis one day last week. All high energy turns. When I can ski woods I fell bad for the people skiing with me.

 



64k vertical feet! damn, i don't even do that out west. on our 300 ft mole hill that would be umm 213 runs. at 3 minutes per lift ride that would be over 600 minutes. I would have to ski constantly from open to close with few small breaks 9am-9pm. yikes.

 

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post #28 of 46
12/12/11 at 10:54pm

Stöckli Spirit Globe. My "easy ski", compatible with short, easy groomers of man made ice with lots of children.

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post #29 of 46
12/13/11 at 4:15am
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Originally Posted by shoal007 View Post



64k vertical feet! damn, i don't even do that out west. on our 300 ft mole hill that would be umm 213 runs. at 3 minutes per lift ride that would be over 600 minutes. I would have to ski constantly from open to close with few small breaks 9am-9pm. yikes.

 



it took me 8am to 4pm and it was not straight though. Id imagine going straight down you could hit a 100k here at stowe assuming the quad keeps running.

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post #30 of 46
12/13/11 at 4:26am
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post



it took me 8am to 4pm and it was not straight though. Id imagine going straight down you could hit a 100k here at stowe assuming the quad keeps running.



Or, if you're skating/climbing back up the mountain it is fair to count those uphill feet too IMO..

 

 

Realistically, on a good day I can do about 5K-6K in an hour and I stop and rest a little here and there.  I go downhill fast after about three hours of that though (bad pun intended).  64K in 8 hours sounds reasonable for someone younger and in good shape.

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