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Volkl RTM

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Thread Starter 

Product:

Length Tested: Volkl RTM 84

Dimensions/Turn Radius:  176cm

Camber (select one, delete the rest): full rocker

Binding: Demo

 

Mount point: Suggested

 

 

Environment & Conditions:

Location of Test: Okemo

Number of Runs:2

Snow Conditions: crappy

Demo or Own: demo

 

Tester Info:

Username: Max Capacity

Age: 57

Height/Weight:5'11" 195lbs

Ski Days/Season: 60+

Years Skiing: 18

Aggressiveness:  Aggressive(Driver)

Current Quiver: Volkl Kendo, Volkl Gotama, Volkl AC40, Volkl AC30, Salomon Gun's

Home Area: Okemo

 

I ski the whole mountain.

 

 

Review:

Excellant feedback from the ski. From getting off the lift to getting back on this ski let you know what the edges were doing. Very easy to start the turn, held well on the frim snow. Hands down, had the best grip of the 5 or skis I demoed yesterday.

I found myself having the confidance to ski faster and harder even though this is very early season for us. When it came time to do the small bumps on the left side of Lower World Cup these things snaked through with little or no effort. When I cut over to the double fall line they took that with ease.

 

 

Conclusion:

Pros: The ski made me feel like I had been sking hard all season and my muscles were in great shape. These things absolutely wanted the rip, the faster and harder I skied them the more they said, "is that all you got ? "

 

 

 

Cons: The one problem with these skis: they make you feel like a better/stronger skier then you are physically.

 


Edited by Max Capacity - 12/12/11 at 8:55am
post #2 of 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post

Product:

Length Tested: Volkl RTM

Dimensions/Turn Radius:  176cm

Camber (select one, delete the rest): full rocker

Binding: Demo

 

Mount point: Suggested

 

 

Environment & Conditions:

Location of Test: Okemo

Number of Runs:2

Snow Conditions: crappy

Demo or Own: demo

 

Tester Info:

Username: Max Capacity

Age: 57

Height/Weight:5'11" 195lbs

Ski Days/Season: 60+

Years Skiing: 18

Aggressiveness:  Aggressive(Driver)

Current Quiver: Volkl Kendo, Volkl Gotama, Volkl AC40, Volkl AC30, Salomon Gun's

Home Area: Okemo

 

I ski the whole mountain.

 

 

Review:

Excellant feedback from the ski. From getting off the lift to getting back on this ski let you know what the edges were doing. Very easy to start the turn, held well on the frim snow. Hands down, had the best grip of the 5 or skis I demoed yesterday.

I found myself having the confidance to ski faster and harder even though this is very early season for us. When it came time to do the small bumps on the left side of Lower World Cup these things snaked through with little or no effort. When I cut over to the double fall line they took that with ease.

 

 

Conclusion:

Pros: The ski made me feel like I had been sking hard all season and my muscles were in great shape. These things absolutely wanted the rip, the faster and harder I skied them the more they said, "is that all you got ? "

 

 

 

Cons: The one problem with these skis: they make you feel like a better/stronger skier then you are physically.

 


Which RTM (width) did you demo?

 

post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 

Sorry FIxed it.

 

RTM 84

 

When buddies and I talked about it, we guess Volkl learned from the AC50. This is a much better ski.

 

 

post #4 of 13

Nice. I only skied it on soft groomers.  Was wondering how the tip engaged on hard snow?  It seemed really solid in the softer groomers, super stable and powerful.  I would consider that ski for a western-style carver, it would be near the top of my list.

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post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 

Dawg, this thing had great edge hold, If you get a warn spell and then freezing over night, this is the ski you want to be on.

 

It's the first ski I've been on that has that why aren't you pushing me harder feel to it. I will say that I have been on other Volkl's from the same Volkl Rep. In past years I have told him, that's the best tuned ski I've ever been on. He tunes his skis not a local shop. The guy is good!

 

You should try one Dawg and let me know if it's just his tune or the ski.

post #6 of 13

I demoed the RTM 84 at Jiminy Peak in MA on a hardpack/icy December day and liked them very much.  My daily east coast hardpack ski is the Volkl racestock Racetiger SL.  The Racetigers are a lot of fun railing fast turns on smooth surfaces but get a little hairy when speeding through ruts, death cookies, icy crud and the other imperfections that typically plague east coast skiing.  What I like about the RTMs is that they absorb the imperfections in the snow but still have enough of the Racetiger's edge hold to make them fun high speed carvers.  I could ski them almost as fast as the Racetigers but with much more confidence in crappy conditions.  I did not get to try them in soft snow, bit I suspect they would be a lot of fun.  I would buy a pair if they were not so expensive.         

post #7 of 13

I demoed a pair of the RTM 84 in a 176 at Kicking Horse in Golden BC last weekend.  I had the skis for the weekend - I gave up on them after 4 runs.  I will admit they were great on the groomed in big GS turns and you could roll from edge to edge quickly with great edge hold..  However in the crud I found them hooky and difficult to turn.  I just couldn't carve through the moguls.

 

I did find them nice and light.

 

I am 5'10" 160 lbs and like to ski moguls, trees and really  steep chutes and bowls.  There is no way I could make these work for me.  My usual ski is 82mm underfoot Atomic D2 VF with lots of snap.

Cheers

J

post #8 of 13

I've demoed the 77mm and 80mm wide RTM. Don't remember the lengths. I hated them and found them very unstable. I would never in a million years think these skis were Volkl. My buddy tried them and concurred. He said you really need to be positive on the edges. I also talked to another RTM ski renter who didn't like them.

 

It just goes to show that everyone is different and how it is so important to demo before you buy.

post #9 of 13

I think the RTM 84 will be my next pair of skis.  Most of my skiing is in the midwest and east with some out west.  Liked the AC50 but the RTM with some rockering tip and tail should make it a more versatile ski. 

 

Bill

post #10 of 13

Recently bought the 2013 RTM 84 in a 181 and love this ski.  I"m finding it smooth, versatile, great edge grip and decent in the backcountry.  I bought it to compliment my S7s.  One of my favorite front side skis.

post #11 of 13
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Originally Posted by DanoT View Post

I've demoed the 77mm and 80mm wide RTM. Don't remember the lengths. I hated them and found them very unstable. I would never in a million years think these skis were Volkl. My buddy tried them and concurred. He said you really need to be positive on the edges. I also talked to another RTM ski renter who didn't like them.

 

It just goes to show that everyone is different and how it is so important to demo before you buy.

I have tried the new 2013 RTM80 at Winter park, I tested a geat many skis over the 2 days, all were new skis with a factory tune, the RTM80 was by far the best performing ski I found.

When I read that 3 people tested these and hated them, I would have to ask did they have a factory tune still, a bad tune can make the best of skis perform very badly, everyone I have spoken too about the RTM80 raves about how good they are, I tested the 77 and the 84 also and found them also to be fantastic, so forgiving and at the same time exceptionally stable at high speed, they make you want to ski at the next level.


 

 


Edited by paulski - 3/15/12 at 1:47am
post #12 of 13

I tested the rtm84 in 171 which is 1 size too long for me, and didn't like them.  I am 5'6" 150lb and should be skiing mid 160s for carving.  

  

This was not due to tune.  These were the display pair, so have been hanging on the rackboard for the whole season.  They took off the description sticker and they were the first time out.

 

But I don't blame the ski.  I don't think I had enough weight to keep these locked in in this length.  Trying to pressure them more would just cause them to turn more rather than stay locked in.  Whenever they hit even a small chunk, they would popout of the turn and just skip/chatter.  So I think my problem was I couldn't get enough pressure/cm of edge. 


This was actually not my rental, it was my friends' with whom  I swapped my atomic blackeye 164s  for 3runs within 15minutes.   These just had edges done 3 ski days ago. 

He is taller and heavier so happened to like the RTMs better than my old blackeyes.

 

So...my point is that in my opinion is that getting the right length for your weight also can really affect your happiness, not just the tune.

post #13 of 13

Sorry to bump the thread but as a long time Volkl fan I would say for most considering the RTM 77 or 84 that they should demo a Kastle MX 78, 83or even 88 1st before you buy.

A bit more expensive but a whole lot more versatile off piste and in crud and just as much to offer on hard snow. There also less fatiguing to ski.

Some may balk at the price difference but the build quality and fact that most of us don't swap out frontside skis to often 

makes it worth considering for some folks. 

 

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