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Movement Source or Movement Jam?

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Thread Starter 

I am looking for a "one quiver ski" for 50/50 on/off piste.  I rent and will be in Val D'Isere for a week in January and then again in March.  Last year I used the K2 Aftershock and the year before the Rossignal Bandit.


I used to ski predominantly bumps when I lived in North America but have gravitated towards powder and off piste now that most skiing is in Europe (Val D'Isere, Verbier, Zermatt).  I'd like to try a fatter ski (hence the Movement Source) but still want to be able to get the ski through the bumps.  Has anyone tried the Source in the bumps?  The fallback is the Movement Jam or the Rossignal Experience 88TPX.


Any thoughts or suggestions appreciated.

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Here is link to a review that I wrote a couple of years ago about the source.  Loved this ski until found some rocks and ruined the edges..  It was my go to ski for a season.  Did well in bumps.






post #3 of 9

Based I what I think I hear you saying you are not quite as concerned about skiing the bumps anymore. The Experience is not a bad all around ski if you want to still keep bumps on your radar. Also consider if you are an expert skier you can ski bumps on very wide skis and still learn to rail them on hard pack and groomed as well. Having said that the Rossi Experience 98 is 10mm wider and a bit stiffer and plows through variable snow and powder. It rails nicely on hard pack as well and an expert skier will have no problem navigating through the bumps on this ski!

post #4 of 9
Thread Starter 

Thanks.  Has either of you tried the Salomon BBR 8.9?


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I really like the Movement brand, having previously owned Goliaths and Thunders.  I just got a pair of 185 Source skis for this season, but haven't skied them yet.  I did read a bunch of great reviews on the Source and dimension wise, it is a lot like a Sultan 94.  The difference will be the Source is a lighter ski with more energy.  The Movement Sluff is worth a look too.  Over the years I have read lots of love for the Sluff.

post #6 of 9
Thread Starter 

Thanks.  How long before you get to try them?

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Noticed that the link doesn't seem to be working.. Here is a paste of my review..


I’ve been enthralled with Movement skis for the last year now, starting with the 08/09 Thunder.  Now my quiver includes the Thunder, 08/09 Sluff and now the 09/10 Source.  I’ve been skiing the Thunder for a year, the Sluff for a half year, and the Source for a short while (six full days lift access and one backcountry) and I’m rather jazzed about the Source in particular.

I’m a 51-year-old passionate skier and usually ski about 80 to 90 days per season.  I weigh about 175 pounds and am a fairly fit and strong skier.   I ski in the Canadian Rockies, mostly Sunshine, Lake Louise, Fernie, Panorama, and Castlle.  My current skis include the Movements, 183 Rossi Worldcup GS, 165 Atomic SL 12 Race, and Atomic SL 11.  I’ve had various Volkl, Atomic and Rossi skis including the Heli Daddy, Mantra and assorted Rossi B models.  Boots include BD Factor and Salomon X3 RC CS.  Bindings are Marker Baron.  People usually comment on their skiing ability in these reviews, and all I can really say is that my ability is eternally evolving - it's better than it was but not as good as I want - at least not yet

I read in another review of the Source  (177 cm) that ski had a speed limit and always has to be skied in shorter radius turns.  Thus far, I have not hit a speed limit for the 185 Source despite trying.  While it is a ski that likes to turn and is most stable when on edge (not a surprise), it does so with speed and confidence.  I feel that this ski has many of the qualities of the Mantra in terms of stability and crud busting, but not the flaws of the Mantra.  It floats better than the Mantra in deep snow and is much more responsive and alive IMHO.  Although, the Source 185 has a 19 metre radius, the ski is adaptable in turning.  Apply more pressure to the front of the ski while on edge, and it behaves with relatively tight carved arcs.  Apply pressure with the heel/full foot, and the arcs grow wider.  It carves solidly on most groomed, but would not be my first pick for very hard pack snow.

In windblown or crud, the ski has been amazing.  It blasts or cuts through crud at high speeds with little deflection, and holds a nice line while on edge.  My speed on sort of drifted crud has been fast because the ski cuts so nicely.

On manmade hardpack – (no snow for a couple of weeks) days, I’ll probably leave the Source at home and stick with a true GS or SL ski.  I can make the ski carve harder snow, but there are other skis that are much more fun than the Source on hard snow.

The only bumps that I’ve skied so far are fairly soft, and have ranged from small to big and tight.  The progressive flex, along with it’s responsiveness helps this ski to do quite well in bumps or in tight trees.  With a little angulation it carves in bumps, but skied flatter, it slides; for example, when aggressively attacking.  It releases from a carve easily.   It skis shorter than a 185 when needed (e.g., in the trees).

On a really deep powder day, I will probably choose a different ski, like my Movement Sluff.  Having said that, the Source has had no difficulties with boot-top to knee deep powder.  It floats well with it’s big shovel and what appears to be a touch of an early rise.  Depending on the edge angle, the Source will either cut nice acrs in powder or surf.  The only difficulty was on a break-through crust, where I felt the large sidecut was a disadvantage.
Touring was reasopnably good.  Dispite the shape, it tracks well, and the bigish shovel makes breaking trail a breeze. 

Overall, I find the Source to be a really fun, responsive and very playful ski that likes to be skied fast.  On weeks where the conditions are soft or some new snow (10 to 20 cm of powder (4 to 8 inches)), the Source will be "the ski"; that is, it will be my everyday ski.  On really deep powder days, heli-ski days or man-made snow days, I will leave it at home.  It’s a ski that is happier when moving fast and gives back when pushed.

Edited by canadianskier - 12/10/11 at 12:55pm
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Originally Posted by chraya View Post

Thanks.  How long before you get to try them?

Sadly, due to lack of snow, my first trip has been pushed back to around January 5th.  The above review is one of the good ones I read before buying mine and there are other good ones I read. If it lives up to 70% of the hype in this review, I will be stoked:  http://shop.snowshepherd.co.uk/Ski-Tests-2010-/-2011/Movement-Source-Review-2012

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Thread Starter 

Finally got to try the Source in Val D'Isere last week and I loved it.  Did not have any powder until the last day, which was really a lot of fun.  But it plows through crud and does fine on groomers and moguls.  A great one quiver ski.  Really a lot of fun to ski.

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