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post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 

We are heading to Utah in Feb 2012,   most sking likely to be SB  and PM

 

We are both 7-8 level skiers looking to get off piste in bounds mostly I would think  for this trip as not likely to purchase AVI equip.

We ahave both just brought S3 and kung fujas respectively  so may spend first day or two cruising Blues to find our feet on the new skis and just having a look around.

 

Just wondering if anyone can tell a bit of a story about thier favourite off piste or piste inbound runs at those mountains we might want to make sure we seek them out for a couple of runs.  No restriction on level but if a double black maybe heads up would be timely.

 

in anticipation thanks for sharing

 

Richo

post #2 of 23

Where are you coming from? 

I don't think you need to worry about bringing AVI equipment, that's what you pay the lift ticket price for, as long as you stay in-bounds you are 99.5% ok.  The ski patrol takes care of those inbound risks.  I know there is a remote chance of dying in an inbound avalanche, but i am sure your chance of death in a regular ski accident is much higher.  Leave the junk at home, that's for experienced locals who are going out of bounds and hope they know what they are doing.

 

Snowbasin in an awesome resort.  It is full of off-piste ungroomed terrain all over the place.  Real easy to find w/o instruction.  You'll find that Snowbasin has these ridge spines, that are mostly ungroomed and wild.  Lots of that terrain. 

 

But, make sure you take a ride to the top on the Mt Allen tram, ski down the groomed but very steep olympic downhill run.  Then go up again and walk over to No Name peak. 

 

 


Edited by SnowbirdDevotee - 12/7/11 at 7:41pm
post #3 of 23

Yeah, no.

 

I'll give you all the general background you want, but not interested in pasting my favorite off piste spots on the Internet. biggrin.gif

 

(No offense to you).

 

Like SD said, though, it's not that hard to find and access. Heck, Powder has multiple labeled areas for out of bounds-style terrain (Powder Country, Lightning Ridge). You can even park at the top of the resort and bomb Powder Country on your first run of the day. Both mountains have great woods and open bowls. Snowbasin has better steep terrain.

post #4 of 23

Both of these mountains consider anything that is not groomed to be off piste.  You will be able to find great skiing especially mid week.

post #5 of 23
Thread Starter 



No wont ski out of bounds,  a possibility we may look to go cat skiing in PM....  Maybe?

From Australia,  thanks for your response.

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Originally Posted by SnowbirdDevotee View Post

Where are you coming from? 

I don't think you need to worry about bringing AVI equipment, that's what you pay the lift ticket price for, as long as you stay in-bounds you are 99.5% ok.  The ski patrol takes care of those inbound risks.  I know there is a remote chance of dying in an inbound avalanche, but i am sure your chance of death in a regular ski accident is much higher.  Leave the junk at home, that's for experienced locals who are going out of bounds and hope they know what they are doing.

 

Snowbasin in an awesome resort.  It is full of off-piste ungroomed terrain all over the place.  Real easy to find w/o instruction.  You'll find that Snowbasin has these ridge spines, that are mostly ungroomed and wild.  Lots of that terrain. 

 

But, make sure you take a ride to the top on the Mt Allen tram, ski down the groomed but very steep olympic downhill run.  Then go up again and walk over to No Name peak. 

 

 



 



Doh!  you caught me out,  all 20 odd million of us Australians were going to come over and ski yr fav spots.   NP just would of been nice to get a bit of discusion going about some runs there to wet my appetite,   aside from which ski to buy ones. (not that I see a problem with people testing opinion when looking to buy a ski)  Just Ive bought mine now so want to hear about the terrain and must go spots.

 

 

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Yeah, no.

 

I'll give you all the general background you want, but not interested in pasting my favorite off piste spots on the Internet. biggrin.gif

 

(No offense to you).

 

Like SD said, though, it's not that hard to find and access. Heck, Powder has multiple labeled areas for out of bounds-style terrain (Powder Country, Lightning Ridge). You can even park at the top of the resort and bomb Powder Country on your first run of the day. Both mountains have great woods and open bowls. Snowbasin has better steep terrain.



 

post #6 of 23

I think snowbasin is pretty easy to figure out as a first time visitor...

post #7 of 23

Have very limited, but fun experience at the two mountains, here is a discussion of some of the runs/terrain with pics and vid of both:  http://www.dcski.com/ubbthreads33/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=61449&page=2

post #8 of 23
Thread Starter 


thanks Jamesj,  what a great post.  I'm only part way through it,   Iam sure I will read through this a few times before I get to experience the place myself.
 

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Have very limited, but fun experience at the two mountains, here is a discussion of some of the runs/terrain with pics and vid of both:  http://www.dcski.com/ubbthreads33/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=61449&page=2



cheers

 

Richo

 

post #9 of 23

I know the courtesy patrol folks at Powder Mountain (PM)  love showing new customers around the mountain. They are very good at watching you take 6 turns and figuring out what your ability level is and what trails you can or can not ski.  The folks at PM are supper friendly.  I am sure the same is true at Snowbasin.  Great places to ski. 

 

Not sure how much time you have.  There is a shuttle from the Salt Lake airport to Jackson, Wy Albertsons that leaves at noon. The Jackson START bus can take you from town of Jackson where the shuttle drops you off to this Hostel in Teton Village.  This  Hostel in Teton Village  is located 300 feet from the Jackson Hole Mountain Resort TRAM, Gondolas and Lifts.  Location location location. Its the best plywood hotel you will ever stay in.  That Hostel often has a few empty rooms mid week.  Its not fancy but its clean warm and has large  room downstairs where real skiers socialize in front of a fire and shoot some pool.    BTW The shuttle drops you off at Jackson Albertson's which is a grocery , beer, liquor   store.  You may want to stock up there  before getting on the START bus to head on over to Teton Village.  Just a thought. 

post #10 of 23
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I think snowbasin is pretty easy to figure out as a first time visitor...



I agree.  Things at Snowbasin seem pretty straightforward.  Pow Mow on the other hand...well its an entirely different animal.  There are plenty of good to be had there.  The first time I visited I left feeling underwhelmed to say the least.  I had heard how good it was but found it hard to navigate and being by myself wasn't comfortable really exploring.  When I returned last season I actually went out with a guide and the experience was totally different.  Even though they were only reporting 5 inches of new snow the guide managed to find a lot of knee deep fluff that kept me out all day and it turned out to be one of my best ski days ever.  I would suggest checking with their Mountain Adventure center to see what options are available for your visit.

post #11 of 23

Have you have read this? If not its a good tutorial on Snowbasin.

post #12 of 23

Wow!  That is the first time I've seen that write up and its a great one.

 

I just hope someday I get the chance to ski with...chase...I mean attempt to keep up with 4ster so I can get to really see more of Snowbasin.

post #13 of 23
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Have you have read this? If not its a good tutorial on Snowbasin.



Have you ever looked at the first two reviews for Pow Mow?  Something seems rather suspect about them.  biggrin.gif

 

http://www.epicski.com/products/powder-mountain#reviews

post #14 of 23

lol, need more of those reviews.

post #15 of 23
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Have you ever looked at the first two reviews for Pow Mow?  Something seems rather suspect about them.  biggrin.gif

 

http://www.epicski.com/products/powder-mountain#reviews


Yea powmow is a total disaster. Don't ski there. wink.gif

post #16 of 23

I am in hopes all the terrible reviews of their food will be enough to keep the crowds away.

post #17 of 23

I don't think you have much to worry about. biggrin.gif

post #18 of 23
Thread Starter 

love the negative reveiws on PM,  I think it might somewhere not to go!  Just like my favourite surf break,    absolute crap ay!

 

 

 

post #19 of 23

  I second getting a local guide at PM- will save a lot of time and it's not expensive. The Cat is a must do if the snow is right. There is (last I checked) even Heli sking that's nearly affordable. Pow Mow is the anti- Deer Valley. Love the negative reviews. If you hit it on the wrong day, like any resort that is outdoors and subject to weather, snow conditions can be challenging. It is huge and hard to get to, but the powder is legendary. That said, steeps are limited and it's sprawling and exposed, so the snow can be vulnerable to high winds. Park up on top, it's beautiful, rustic and and unspoiled. A lot of people think Alta is funky too, (or was before the recent upgrades) The lack of crowds and incredible scenery up around Snowbasin and Pow Mow are well worth the trip. 

post #20 of 23

Where do most people stay if planning a trip to these mountains?  My last few times out we stayed in PC.  Wife loves it...so everyone is happy.  No one in my family wants to wake up and drive beyond the PC resorts.  I'd like to plan something near Snowbasin, but still have that "vacation" experience for my wife. So no Comfort Inns, etc.  Any suggestions?

post #21 of 23

There are a lot of really nice condos and houses available in Eden but it won't be anything like staying in Park City.  The drive to Snowbasin from PC is easy and about the same as a drive to LCC or BCC.  However the drive to Pow Mow is much longer.

post #22 of 23
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Where do most people stay if planning a trip to these mountains?  My last few times out we stayed in PC.  Wife loves it...so everyone is happy.  No one in my family wants to wake up and drive beyond the PC resorts.  I'd like to plan something near Snowbasin, but still have that "vacation" experience for my wife. So no Comfort Inns, etc.  Any suggestions?

 

There are some nice hotels in Ogden, the Marriott on 25th st is in a nice walkable downtown area. You can also stay in the ogden valley (e.g. Eden UT) but there is not much there.

post #23 of 23

I've stayed at the Hampton Inn which is more or less next to the Marriott.  There are a lot of restaurants and such within walking distance which is nice.  The only downside I could find was hauling my gear to the parking garage and back everyday.  The Marriott does have a shuttle to take you skiing.  I met at guy from Detroit at Pow Mow last January who took the shuttle everyday.  I think he said it was something like $5-10 a day but in my mind that is kind of worth it.  He had the driver come around 5:00 to pick him up so he could enjoy a couple of beers at the Powder Keg before hitting the road.

 

I've also stayed in Layton too.  There were tons of places to eat, a large movie theater, shopping etc. all within a mile or so of the hotel we stayed at but there were no shuttles to take you skiing.

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