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Bonafides or Wailer 99s - your opinions please

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

I'm 5'7", 140 lbs, 44 yo, advanced skier, ski Whistler about 30-40 days per year. Aggressive, finesse skier, but old knees with missing parts.

 

I'm looking for a daily driver.

 

Skis in my quiver:

178 DPS Wailer 112 Hybrid with a touring setup: My resort powder day ski although I do find they ski a bit short for me in pow.

183 Katana (old version, no rocker): My cat skiing ski. My favorite ski for charging deep untracked but too much ski for the resort for my weight.

171 Volkl Bridge: I got these for tooling around. Way too short, but kind of fun for goofing around in the trees. I might sell these or give them to my son.

 

So I need a daily Whis ski. I'm torn between the 180 Bonafides and the new 176 Wailer 99s, both of which I can get if I act quickly.

 

I will likely mount Griffons on whichever one I get. Your valuable input is appreciated. I've been waffling on this but I'm currently thinking of just grabbing the 180 Bones which my local shop has sitting on the wall at a fair price. Really, I can't go wrong.

 

Thanks!

post #2 of 13
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Originally Posted by katanaman View Post

I'm 5'7", 140 lbs, 44 yo, advanced skier, ski Whistler about 30-40 days per year. Aggressive, finesse skier, but old knees with missing parts.

 

I'm looking for a daily driver.

 

Skis in my quiver:

178 DPS Wailer 112 Hybrid with a touring setup: My resort powder day ski although I do find they ski a bit short for me in pow.

183 Katana (old version, no rocker): My cat skiing ski. My favorite ski for charging deep untracked but too much ski for the resort for my weight.

171 Volkl Bridge: I got these for tooling around. Way too short, but kind of fun for goofing around in the trees. I might sell these or give them to my son.

 

So I need a daily Whis ski. I'm torn between the 180 Bonafides and the new 176 Wailer 99s, both of which I can get if I act quickly.

 

I will likely mount Griffons on whichever one I get. Your valuable input is appreciated. I've been waffling on this but I'm currently thinking of just grabbing the 180 Bones which my local shop has sitting on the wall at a fair price. Really, I can't go wrong.

 

Thanks!

Yup. 

 

I have skied both and I think an accurate comparison in size would be a 180/184 or 173/176, Bone to 99 respectively. I think the Bonafide is a better fit for what you are looking for in your quiver. 
 

 

post #3 of 13

Hey Phil, would love to hear some detailed compare/contrast of your experience on these two.

post #4 of 13

My .15, since have not skied either but have owned/demoed others of each brand so I know the brand feel/characteristics, ski Whistler a lot, and most importantly also have knees with missing bits. 

 

Phil's almost certainly right. Shameless, wink.gif but right. No seriously, I cannot imagine using a DPS anything as a daily driver in a place that can get a big dump one week and the next, 2" of powder over nicely set up refrozen coral on the glaciers, checkerboards of scratch and crud on the upper front side, stiff corn slush half way down, and mud at the bottom. My knees hurt just thinking about it. Metal is your friend. If your choice is between those two, the Bone.  

post #5 of 13
I skied both but in very different conditions. Given your quiver the Bonafide will be a clear choice in my opinion. I will post my impression of the 99, just need to sit down and do it.
post #6 of 13
Thread Starter 

Bones it is. And I presume you guys recommend the 180 for my size/weight/usage? The 73 seems mighty short and there's a fair amount of rise in the tips.

post #7 of 13

I've been lurking here for awhile and was looking for a comparison of these two skis as well.   Thanks for all the good feedback so far.

 

Background:

I'm 28 5'10 165lb athletic skier (24 yrs) and will be skiing NH/VT with 1-2 trips out West per year. I love skiing the trees as well as the open terrain found in the back bowls of places like Vail.  After recently moving to the east coast, I realize that this is going to occur less frequently, and I should probably be looking at skis that are not just powder oriented.  On the hardpack which I'll likely be spending more time at, I'm an agressive skier on the with medium radius turns but I'm not a huge GS turn racing-background type of guy. 

 

Ski History:

I have a pair of 165cm Fisher RX7s that I have for when its frozen but I'd like something wider for 75% of the time.  For what it's worth, I demoed the S7s loved their ease of skiing short to medium turns in the powder, but seems like I should be looking at something around 100mm for more quickness and versatility on the east coast. 

 

Do you guys have any thoughts on whether the Wailer 99 (184cm) or Bonafide (180 cm) would be a better east coast/west coast ski for someone like myself?  I read the review of the Wailer on blister gear and it sounds like they might be more versatile as far as skiing in the trees, powder, and bumps (http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2012-2013-dps-wailer-99-pure-184cm).  Would love to hear your guys thoughts...

 

Also looking at:

K2 Kung fujas (seem much softer - maybe not a EC ski)

Nordica Hell and Back

 

 

Thanks guys!

 

post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by Pants View Post

I've been lurking here for awhile and was looking for a comparison of these two skis as well.   Thanks for all the good feedback so far.

 

Background:

I'm 28 5'10 165lb athletic skier (24 yrs) and will be skiing NH/VT with 1-2 trips out West per year. I love skiing the trees as well as the open terrain found in the back bowls of places like Vail.  After recently moving to the east coast, I realize that this is going to occur less frequently, and I should probably be looking at skis that are not just powder oriented.  On the hardpack which I'll likely be spending more time at, I'm an agressive skier on the with medium radius turns but I'm not a huge GS turn racing-background type of guy. 

 

Ski History:

I have a pair of 165cm Fisher RX7s that I have for when its frozen but I'd like something wider for 75% of the time.  For what it's worth, I demoed the S7s loved their ease of skiing short to medium turns in the powder, but seems like I should be looking at something around 100mm for more quickness and versatility on the east coast. 

 

Do you guys have any thoughts on whether the Wailer 99 (184cm) or Bonafide (180 cm) would be a better east coast/west coast ski for someone like myself?  I read the review of the Wailer on blister gear and it sounds like they might be more versatile as far as skiing in the trees, powder, and bumps (http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2012-2013-dps-wailer-99-pure-184cm).  Would love to hear your guys thoughts...

 

Also looking at:

K2 Kung fujas (seem much softer - maybe not a EC ski)

Nordica Hell and Back

 

 

Thanks guys!

 



do not discount the Schmitar which blistergear review is thinking is the closest to the wailer 99 at half the price....

 

 

post #9 of 13

With the Wailer 99s I was considering the hybrids as its tough to justify the $$$ for the PURES as a non-touring resort ski.

post #10 of 13
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With the Wailer 99s I was considering the hybrids as its tough to justify the $$$ for the PURES as a non-touring resort ski.



The hybrids are damper and would make better resort skis.

post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 

Bushwacker & Phil (and others): Any suggestions on 180 vs 173 for me? I'm leaning towards 180 because of the rocker but given my weight an argument could be made for the 73.

 

Bushwacker: I noticed the Stowe logo on your post  - I grew up skiing there in the late 70s early 80s. In fact, I've got an old Nosedive sign in my cabin a Whistler. I remember the place fondly.

 

thanks guys. 

post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by katanaman View Post

Bushwacker & Phil (and others): Any suggestions on 180 vs 173 for me? I'm leaning towards 180 because of the rocker but given my weight an argument could be made for the 73.

 

Bushwacker: I noticed the Stowe logo on your post  - I grew up skiing there in the late 70s early 80s. In fact, I've got an old Nosedive sign in my cabin a Whistler. I remember the place fondly.

 

thanks guys. 



Both the 173 and 180 could be fine for you....the 173 if you want something nimbler for the trees, the 180 is you want a bit more of a charger. I was in-between the 180 and 187 but the 180 fit better in my quiver and for what I wanted to use it for. The ski is good enough that you can go either way. 

post #13 of 13
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the advice Phil. Getting the 180s mounted up tomorrow. It should fit nicely into the quiver.

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