Thank you Ray, Bud. To be honest the whole idea of needing to start a new thread about boot fitting, balancing, ski / binding and shell geometry that has been done a thousand times in the ask the boot guys forum, is curious. That's why I gently suggested Vitamin do a little research on his own. It's all there for his reading and learning pleasure. All he needs to do is click on that forum and he will find it. Which brings up a few internal Epic questions. Are we doing enough to inform folks of all the wonderful information already available? When a boot question like this comes up should it be moved to that forum? I like how Ray posted a link for everyone's further study but having to post it a second time suggests we are not getting our messages out clearly enough, or they are being ignored. Same goes for my suggestion to review the content of that forum (ABG), I feel it's been ignore by the OP.
Three pages later the answer to the original (and the modified question), is still no. Equipment has changed a lot over the past fifty years and a lot of skiers still end up in an aft stance for a variety of reasons. It can be as simple as a joint movement bias, or lack of RoM in one of the six major leg joints (3 in each leg). It can be as simple as equipment mis-alignments and better boot fit. It can and IMO usually is more complex and a varying combination of many factors, not just one. After fourty years of skiing and over thirty years of teaching / race coaching / ski school and patrol staff training, I would say the answer is there is no way to claim 99% of aft stances can be traced back to any one root cause. Period.
The fact that the original question was posed in the manner it was, strongly suggest Vitamin either has already reached the conclusion that you can buy your way out of the back seat, or he has a very limited knowledge base when it comes to aft stances and their causes / cures. (I don't mean that as a slam Vitamin, so please don't take it that way). Assessing your knowledge base and guiding you to the appropriate information and packaging that information appropriately for your level of understanding is something we try to do. Often a subject is too complex for a simple yes or no type of answer though. So offering suggested reading / viewing seem to me to be a more comprehensive approach to helping you learn.
Finally, I want to address the opinions you posted in post 66.
"I KNOW that there can be compensation for a bad base, but-OVERWHELMINGLY-properly fit and prepped boots are the most important foundation of developing strong dynamic balance. And all that was really communicated was that you can still achieve proper balance with ill-fitting and improperly set boots. Well, um, yeah...
This thread has been worthless without any diagrams, and with some description of anatomical movement that is physically impossible."
1) First let me Thank You for the honest feedback. Secondly I feel strongly that you are grossly overstating the importance of the equipment. We stand and walk with and without shoes. The magic is in how we acheive dynamic balance regardless of what's on our feet, or what's not on our feet. The ski boots are an important part of that but hardly the most important part. The pilot and what that pilot does is still the largest single factor, we can compliment that with a great set up but you simply can't buy your way out of the back seat.
2) It isn't up to any of us to spoon feed you all the articles and archives you can so easily find already posted on the site. So please stop whining about that and start doing your own legwork. Ray gave you a link and I hope you viewed that video. I suggested you visit the Ask the Boot Guys forum where you wil find more than a few threads concerning this subject. If that's not enough, there are many articles in the premium articles part of the site. If that's still not enough, google the University of Grenoble's ski library, or any national ski racing site / ski teaching site. That should keep you busy for about five years. Good luck on your journey.
Edited by justanotherskipro - 12/8/11 at 1:46pm