Originally Posted by evaino
I think what we have is a different understanding of explosiveness and power. You're fixated on the jumping and hopping and assuming that if that's not what you're doing on snow then that's not how you should train. That's flawed. Power is rapid application of force. That's what plyometric training develops - the ability to apply a lot of force quickly. Beginner skiers need this as much or more than advanced skiers because it is what will allow them to survive when the hill presents something they weren't expecting. For advanced skiers who like to get off the groomed or get into the bumps, it is also a huge factor. Racers don't necessarily need it from turn to turn, but they will if they ever catch an edge.
No, what I am saying is that modern skiing, particularly for recreational skiers, does not require the explosiveness you are suggesting. You were saying explosive earlier, btw, not talking watts. They are two separate if related things.
Skiing off the groomed certainly doesn't require it, either, nor does good bump skiing. (Competitive bumping is an exception, and slalom in particular can also be an exception, but those are relevant to a very small number of skiers. They also demand less vertical explosiveness than most people think.) Even for high-level racers, there is not a premium on either explosive jumping, say, or a brief multi-second spurt of raw power the way there is for some related sports. You cannot look at the weight room numbers of a skier, or their vertical leap, or their depth jump performance, and know whether they have what it takes.
The reality is that skiing in general is not a power game, and recreational skiing even less so. Certainly it is not an explosive game -- for recreational skiers the closest you might come on that count is ollie ability, and dropping body weight and developing technique are way more important than training your vertical jump for getting a good ollie.
If someone says they ski "explosively," looking at their technique generally is called for. I mention hopping among other things, because many less-good skiers still think, wrongly, that linked hop or jump turns are an example of "good" skiing and a good way to approach steeper terrain (they are a good drill, though). Recreational skiers do not need above-average explosive strength, and thinking about explosive movement as a good thing frankly will probably hurt the development of beginning skiers. As far as reacting "explosively" to, say, try to correct a beginner mistake and not fall, that's a good way for beginners to get hurt.
It helps to go back and look at the development of modern skis and modern ski technique. One of the great things about modern ski shapes has been they generally require less strength to ski well.
Edited by CTKook - 12/4/11 at 9:53pm