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Need new skiis after 20 years on 205cm Elan RC Comprex SL race ski

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 

Yes, its OK to have a good laugh about this thread. A little info is in order. I am an expert skier, skied all over the world, always wanted to be in a Warren Miller film, but never contacted him. Bought the skis in the 1990's when I was skiing a lot, then had a health problem, got married, kids, etc.... Time went by. I started my son skiing at 3,(he is 13 now) and was walking him up the local hill. I figured why the heck buy new skiis until he is older and can ski the whole mountain with me. He did the harness for a while, and my Elans were fine for that, and I really liked them. Fast forward to 2011 and I am way over due for new skis. By now, I have no idea what to buy and what length it should be. I ski in New England with an occasional ski trip out west in the future (I miss powder).

 

When I was up on things, I really didn't like GS skis, just really quick turning SL race skis that were long and pretty stiff. (not pro race stiff)(I am 6'4" and 250lbs). Seems SL skis are wayyyyy short now, I can't see me on a pair of 160's and I am unsure if "all mountain carvers" are really fat GS skis?

 

I would love to hear recommendations on skis to buy. My research has led me to consider:

 

Dynastar Contact 4X4 in 178cm

Kastle  MX78 in 178cm

Ullr's Charriot in 178 or 188

 

I am wondering if the longest SL race ski (160's) would still be my best choice?

 

I have a buddy who is ski shopping with me and we are looking for a deal on some joint therapy sessions. Hope this brings a smile.

 

post #2 of 19

your research is probably on the right track.  I tend to like responsive, turny skis also, but imagine that whatever you get on will seem like a SL ski compared to your current skis.  Mens SL skis are 165 cm, FWIW.  Not a bad idea to demo as there is no way to tell what you will like re current skis

 

Lots of new ski threads going on now...

http://www.epicski.com/t/107563/which-allmountain-skis#post_1395649

 

 

 

post #3 of 19

Where are you doing most of your skiing (groomers, steeps, bumps, tress, crud??????)

post #4 of 19
Thread Starter 
mostly groomers some steep. Have to get my son into tree skiing
post #5 of 19

Ok well I would recommend either a race SL (either FIS or nonFIS, depending on what you're looking for) in the biggest size (typically a 165 or so) or a frontside carver with a medium to short radius.  Head Magnum or Titan, Fischer Progressor 9 or 10, Rossi Strato or Classic 70, Dynastar Course, Kastle RX, and Blizzard Supersonic are all great options.  I don't know much about the Ullr Chariots, but the MX78 are a kick ass ski but have more of a GS feel to them, and the 4x4's are a little burly as well.  I would say if you are strictly interested in short radius turns, mostly carved, on groomers and steeps, go with a race slalom, but if you want a little more versatility, go with a frontside carver.

post #6 of 19
I would highly recommend avoiding race SL skis. The transition from 204s to 165s would be frightening and would take a long long time to get used to. I would find the longest mid fat ski made these days not only based on your size but the fact that you've been skiing 204s. Consider something in the long 170s up to 184. Ideally something with a stiffer construction would be best as well due to the fact that the skis you've been on are rather stiff compared to skis these days. In my experience you generally don't want to go incredibly short in your ski selection when you're coming off straight long skis as your old technique simply won't work on super short skis with tons of sidecut.
post #7 of 19

As wasatch was saying, the transition may be tough.  Most importantly, demo demo demo.  Demo as many skis as you can so you know what you like and what you don't.  And more importantly what you will be able to adjust to.  It's probably gonna be difficult regardless of the ski, but the race SL's will be more difficult most likely as wasatch said.

post #8 of 19

Look at VOLKL CODE, FISCHER PROGESSOR, ATOMIC D2 VF 82, or any of the non FIS race ski SL/COMBE. by anyone.

post #9 of 19

Atomic D2 RACE SL in a 170. Its a lot of ski but it rips short quick turns, if you can keep up.

post #10 of 19

Elan Comprex RC SL, has it really been 20 Years?

 

I agree that you should avoid today's SL race skis and be careful not to go too short.

Elan still makes a great ski and the Elan Amphibio 14 176CM would be a ski I'd highly recommend for you.

My guess is you'll be able to rock this ski old school style and still have some fun and benefit from the modern shape.

The fact that the inside edge has camber but the outside edge has rocker will make it very easy for you to start carving right away.

 

I enjoyed my Elan Comprex RC SL's back in the day!!

 

 

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post #11 of 19
Thread Starter 

Thanks everyone. Excellent advice. I am planning on demo'ing the next two weekends in New Hampshire.

Love the picture of "my" skis. I will have to get one up too.

 

I have been thinking the same thing about about the SL race skis being too short and probably too quick.

 

I found a deal on a pair of Ullr's Chariots in 178 and I bought them ($400 for new pair of last years ski, no bindings). They are 101mm underfoot and I don't expect them to be quick turning, but I plan to add another pair of carver type skis for icy groomers. Trying to make a decision on these skis drove me crazy.

 

Maybe I will skip the therapy and just go demo'ing.

post #12 of 19

Ski lessons will be the ticket for you! You're going to need to learn how to carve a turn before demoing a ski is going to make any sense. Those Ullr's Chariots will only hold and edge for you if you have them way way up on edge. Also the Chariots look real nice however I'm not sure I'd want a wide ski with-out some early-rise rocker now that I've tasted the candy as they say.

post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by bttocs View Post

 

I found a deal on a pair of Ullr's Chariots in 178 and I bought them ($400 for new pair of last years ski, no bindings). They are 101mm underfoot and I don't expect them to be quick turning, but I plan to add another pair of carver type skis for icy groomers. 

 

 


Looks like a good price and should be a very good plan.  Expert skier had SkiLogik Ullr's Chariot TT in a 178 as their top overall ski the last two years.  They have tended to have a bias towards carving skis, but gave good reviews to many of the rockers/early rise skis and some of the wider this year.  Here is a picture I took of Gary Fondl in Frisco on his SkiLogik skis- he is one of their sponsored athletes, but genuinely seems to love the skis (not positive which model)

 

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post #14 of 19

Nice!! Looks like he's on a pair of the new rockered Ullr's. Makes it real easy to smear those turns.

post #15 of 19

I am coaching this year, ex-racer hurt my back many years ago in a car accident and now I am getting back into the coaching end of things. I tried a FIS Rossignol SL9 last year at 165cm, I felt like I was on razor blades the edge grip was off the charts but it was very hard getting use to them. I am 6"3 and about 235 and I still tend to ski 180-186cm I bought a pair of Rossignol Experience 88 and they are fantastic so far, just curious what one would recommend just for coaching, I would think any decent all mountain ski would do or a pair of beer league racers?


Thanks for an help as well.... 

post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by QuickTurner View Post
 

I am coaching this year, ex-racer hurt my back many years ago in a car accident and now I am getting back into the coaching end of things. I tried a FIS Rossignol SL9 last year at 165cm, I felt like I was on razor blades the edge grip was off the charts but it was very hard getting use to them. I am 6"3 and about 235 and I still tend to ski 180-186cm I bought a pair of Rossignol Experience 88 and they are fantastic so far, just curious what one would recommend just for coaching, I would think any decent all mountain ski would do or a pair of beer league racers?

 

 

Nice bump!     

 

If you already have E88s, why not a pair of beer league racers?

post #17 of 19

Cantunamunch: So your saying to use the E88 as beer league racers? ;) Funny you mention that I did use them in a fun race last season with very good results. 

 

My current Quiver:

 

Rossignol E88 186cm

Blizzard Brahma 180cm

Dynastar SC 10  186cm <<<<< I have used these good ski turn quickly before. 

Rossignol Slant SL9 just sold them to my nephew who is racing.

 

Just thinking about a SL Racing Ski but not sure if I need them..

post #18 of 19

What age/level will you be coaching?  Where are you located?  

post #19 of 19

COSkiGirl, well I use to race out your way, but will be in the Midwest but out West about 3 times a year.... So far loving the 88..... 

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