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I'm interested in attending a multi day camp. Any suggestions? I know most camps. Cater to the advanced skier. 

 

Had my first day out, this season yesterday and am pretty discouraged. I know it was the first day and I was dealing with some boot issues, but I really want to progress this season.


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The first day out is always sort of a "loss" to me.  I don't ski with anyone else on my first day, either.  Need to find out "how to do it" all over again, get the old feet compressed into the boots again (my boots feel like I've brought someone else's the first day), etc.  In fact, I just long to get the first day OVER WITH.  I only target getting in 2-5 runs and then go home.  So, don't feel bad about that.  Further, I refuse to ski with anyone else on their "first day" as well.  Not worth my time to put up with all their issues.  

 

You don't say where you plan to ski and since that's a big part of the puzzle, you need to supply that information. Frankly, I'm more of a believer in camps that are AM camps or once a week series so that you can practice what you've learned in between lessons.  I also think that going to camps mid-season makes more sense as well.  You've ramped up your muscles (assuming it IS mid-season for you and not just mid season on the calendar) figured out what needs work and are ready to learn, then post-camp you can reinforce it before the season is over.  

 

So, sounds like what I am saying is, if the only time you are going to ski this season is in the camp and not before and not after, you're not going to get your money's worth.  Better just to take a lesson mid-vacation.  

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So, sounds like what I am saying is, if the only time you are going to ski this season is in the camp and not before and not after, you're not going to get your money's worth.  Better just to take a lesson mid-vacation.  

Thanks,
 

No, not what im saying at all. 

 

I ski when i can here in NC.  And then im going to Utah twice. Once in Feb and then in March. If there were a camp that would work for me, at some other time,  then i would try and do that as well. I wanted to go west 3 times this year anyway. 

 

I do plan on taking lessons along the way. Here and probably on the trips i have planned as well.  

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I'm interested in attending a multi day camp. Any suggestions? I know most camps. Cater to the advanced skier. 

 

Had my first day out, this season yesterday and am pretty discouraged. I know it was the first day and I was dealing with some boot issues, but I really want to progress this season.


Any ski area with a ski school will have lessons appropriate to a beginner through intermediate level. Just explain that you want to work with the same instructor each day and then take 1 lesson a day for the duration of your trip. You don't need  a specialized camp...

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Taos has ski weeks that should fit what you are looking for.

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Any ski area with a ski school will have lessons appropriate to a beginner through intermediate level. Just explain that you want to work with the same instructor each day and then take 1 lesson a day for the duration of your trip. You don't need  a specialized camp...



Yeah, that's kind of wht I was thinking as well.

 

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The first day out is always sort of a "loss" to me.  I don't ski with anyone else on my first day, either.  Need to find out "how to do it" all over again, get the old feet compressed into the boots again (my boots feel like I've brought someone else's the first day), etc.  In fact, I just long to get the first day OVER WITH.  I only target getting in 2-5 runs and then go home.  So, don't feel bad about that.  Further, I refuse to ski with anyone else on their "first day" as well.  Not worth my time to put up with all their issues.  

 



 

Thanks sibhusky. It was really a downer. I was hoping to start off at least better than I ended last season. I've done a lot of reading, but you know, I guess it's really hard to put what you read into practice if you can't  get out there.  Sometimes I feel like I'm just never gonna " get it". I know with many sports, there comes a time, that you have some what of an epiphany. That's probably too strong of a word, but I know there is something I'm missing, and I just haven't found it yet. And it's frustrating. When I say that, I know that when i do "get it", I will still have a long way to go to get where I want to be, but just having this monkey of inadequacy on my back sucks. 

 

I kind of equate this to learning to kayak. When I was learning to paddle, I felt like a total uncoordinated moron. I never thought I would learn to roll. Finally one day, during a lesson my instructor connected with me and somehow conveyed to me what I needed to do, and I did my first roll. During that roll, and more so over the next few times in the boat, I knew "the feeling" that I was striving for and was able to roll my boat fairly consistently after that. It was a breakthrough that allowed me to advance, and have fun doing it.  No, I didn't become a bad ass kayaker, but I was able to paddle some fun class IV water, which is what I wanted to do. 

 

Im hoping something similar happens ith my skiing, because right now, I'm not Feeling it. 

Ive got faith though, and I'm motivated. 

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I know when I hit day 18 last year, it was like someone threw a switch.  All of a sudden I was faster, smoother, etc. than I'd been not just the early part of last season, but also the season before (I've had a hard time coming back from some injuries).  I don't know WHAT the heck happened.  One day I was tooling along deciding to devote myself to just working on better turns and not pushing myself and suddenly the next day I was BACK.  Probably the right combination of conditions, fitness, daylight (that's an issue here) and practice suddenly came together.  One of the weirder things I've experienced.  Friends even commented on it.  Wish I could tell you the secret to throw that switch.  I think the RIGHT teacher would help, but....I've had more bad luck than good with ski instructors over the last 40 years.  I think you should ask the Epic members, "who is the best ski instructor for (description of self) at (the place you are going).  Not every "good" instructor is the right match for every student.  And, as for the camp thing, if you are feeling particularly low about yourself, the exposure of your limitations publicly might actually interfere with your learning. Might be better to take private lessons in that case.  

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At JH we have the ability to create a camp experience for you.  If you come with or create a small group that wants to ski together in a lesson format, just ask and we will get you an appropriate instructor, hook you up with some early gondola/tram rides, and maybe even a BC experience and some Apre perks.  Our SS is working out the details for what we are calling the mini-camp concept, but it is all on the table.  The guy to talk with is Matt Fagan and he can be reached at 307 733-2292.  I am also pretty sure that we have some established intermediate camps that have been developed along the lines of out Steep & Deep Camp product.

 

I like skiing with my guests for a full day.  That way I can evaluate and coach the movements that I have taught.  I don't see how a one hour lesson is very helpful.  Most skiers I have met need some directed practice time to really own a new movement pattern.  I have observed that most skiers have a hard time accurately practicing a new movement without outside feedback.  I mostly "teach" in the morning and "coach" in the afternoon and try to do FAR more skiing than talking though out the whole experience.  The latest issue of my divisions PSIA newsletter listed 10 oxymoron's of instruction.  One of them was that students learn more by doing or talking/thinking than by listening to their instructor talk....  Really?  Duh!  Most of the "oxymoron's" on the list seemed like stuff that was pretty obvious to me.  I really believe that the all day lesson is the better format for accurately learning and retaining new information.   

 

We also try very hard to provide our group lesson students the opportunity to ski with the same instructor for multiple days if they request it.  It's best if there are not a lot of add on students so material doesn't need to be repeated for the new comers.  We will do this automatically if a group of three or more requests it, throw in the early gondola ride and that group no longer needs to come to line up.  This effectively gives those guests an extra 2hrs of skiing over the normal group lesson at the same price.
 

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Any ski area with a ski school will have lessons appropriate to a beginner through intermediate level. Just explain that you want to work with the same instructor each day and then take 1 lesson a day for the duration of your trip. You don't need  a specialized camp...



 

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