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post #1 of 7
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So, I just bought a pair of Full Tilt First Chair boots off of backcountry after trying on a similar Full Tilt Boot in the only ski store around Sun n Ski Sports. Unfortunately, although the guys at the store are avid skiers, I don't think they qualify as expert bootfitters. I did a shell fit in the store on both a 28.5 and 27.5. The 28.5 was basically comfortable and the 27.5 was pretty tight. My mondo size is actually a 28.

 

Figuring obviously that the tighter the better, I went ahead and bought the First Chairs off of backcountry in the 27.5. Tried em on today around the house and I'm thinking they might be to too tight even after a heat mold. The right foot feels fine, and I can get about an index finger and a half behind my heel in the shell, but the left foot, i can barely squeeze an index finger. The feeling I would describe with the liners in is tight like a rock climbing shoe with my toes almost curling a little bit.

 

From your experiences, can this be heatmolded out even with a footbed in or should I send em back and get a 28.5 even though it might be a tad big?

 

Thanks

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So, I just bought a pair of Full Tilt First Chair boots off of backcountry after trying on a similar Full Tilt Boot in the only ski store around Sun n Ski Sports. Unfortunately, although the guys at the store are avid skiers, I don't think they qualify as expert bootfitters. I did a shell fit in the store on both a 28.5 and 27.5. The 28.5 was basically comfortable and the 27.5 was pretty tight. My mondo size is actually a 28.

 

Figuring obviously that the tighter the better, I went ahead and bought the First Chairs off of backcountry in the 27.5. Tried em on today around the house and I'm thinking they might be to too tight even after a heat mold. The right foot feels fine, and I can get about an index finger and a half behind my heel in the shell, but the left foot, i can barely squeeze an index finger. The feeling I would describe with the liners in is tight like a rock climbing shoe with my toes almost curling a little bit.

 

From your experiences, can this be heatmolded out even with a footbed in or should I send em back and get a 28.5 even though it might be a tad big?

 

Thanks



If you truly have a zero finger shell on your left foot try to get the toes blown out.

post #3 of 7

28.5 comfortable in the store = packed out too big.  Sounds like the 27.5 is probably the right shell with a liner heat fit and possibly some shell modifications.

post #4 of 7
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the advice. I think I'm going to send them back, though. I tried them on again this morning in the shells and both were almost impossible to even get a finger in. Although I wouldn't be opposed to having someone make shell modifications, I'm not comfortable having someone in Houston do it (if there even is anyone).

 

Just for good measure, I traced my foot this morning on 8.5x11 piece of paper and I had at least a quarter inch of toe sticking over the edge, which translates into 28.57 centimeters, so I'm hoping that provides enough justification for going up to the next size. If not...hopmad.gif

 

 

post #5 of 7

I'll add two things, first, do you have a narrow foot? Full Tilts are a very narrow 99 mm. Second,  a size 27.5 is a 27 shell which is probably too small  without shell work being done by a bootfitter if you are a 28 mondo.

post #6 of 7

Length is clearly not the only issue in boot-fitting.  Volume, instep and shape are also important.  If you have shell-fit the boots and can clear a finger at the heel while toes are touching the front, you may have the right boot length.  Liners often are a problem in being short-lasted and bringing comfort to a tight-fitting boot is often just a matter of minor modifications.

 

The lack of boot-fitters in Houston has been noted before on Epicski, and I understand the frustration in trying to deal with this issue. 

 

Do you have ski travel plans for this winter? 

Based on your trace, you are saying your foot-length is 11.5" or 29 cm? 

Could you get an accurate measurement using a Brannock scale at a local shoe store? 

 

If you want, we could move this thread, or you may want to post your question in Ask the Boot Guys.

post #7 of 7
Thread Starter 

Thanks, I was actually just thinking this really should be moved to the bootfitters forum.

 

I'm going skiing in Park City with family friends on 12/23 - 12/30, and while that would clearly be a perfect time/place to get fitted for boots, since I'm a guest on the vacation, I'm not sure exactly what the plans are going to be. It's also possible that I'd be heading up to Denver for a few days before that, but not sure yet.

 

Based on the trace I did this morning, I'd put it closer to 11.25" Also, if it helps at all, the most comfortable and accurately fit pair of shoes I own are 2 pairs of Allen Edmonds Strands in a 10.5. According to their website, the last used on these shoes is a "5 Last (65) This is the longest in length of all of our lasts; best for a long, narrow foot." In running shoes I wear a 11.5 or 12.

 

I'd be more than happy to use a Brannock scale if that would help. Would would be the specific measurement I'd be looking for other than length.  

 

 

 

Also, if there are good bootfitters in Dallas, I'd be willing to drive there...

 

Thanks


Edited by thedjbc - 12/2/11 at 8:53am
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